Hyundai loses 18 points from Saturday with that. What a blow.
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Hyundai loses 18 points from Saturday with that. What a blow.
Ott only knows one pace , he was never going to take it easy
So many mistakes this year and fucked up also the manu titleQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Well deserved win for Thierry and Martijn!
Why did Ott have a long look at Martin? Wrong note? Something else?
With that loss, Toyota is currently ahead in manufacturers.
I was just saying those cars where not in a good place, wonder if he got distracted
It was always a long shot, shame it screwed Hyundai in the manufacturers like that, better luck ( &hopefully) less mistakes from Tänak for 2025. Either way it'll be the first time there's a #1 on the car.
After the crash he said “there was nothing” and I think he meant with that the gravel crew had nothing in the notesQuote:
Originally Posted by COD
He hit the slippery part on the right and after that was history
What a shame.. It is over for Hyundai. Can't imagine being Tanak now..
Surely looked like a wrong note. Ott stopped turning mid corner
Kovalainen off at the same corner
Congrats to Thierry. This World Chamipnship win was fully-derseved. :champion:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdGyXIqW...pg&name=medium
It's not over for Hyundai yet. If may calculations are correct they need just 5 more points on Sunday overall than Toyota to win it and Neuville can push like hell now.
Up by 4 if I’m right (if Evans and Ogier goes to the finish)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
But Neuville can now put maximum attack and Mikkelsen has good road position (but some issue with the car)
Let’s see what happen but it’ll be maximum attack now
So happy for Neuville :D
Finally, Thierry, finally you're world champion! Damn well deserved.
Now let's enjoy the battle for the manu title.
By five (549 vs 544) but I am not sure what happens to Saturday points now that Tanak is out (I assume they stay as is and not move up).Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Mikkelsen and Neuville can attack, that is true but so can all Toyotas. Admittedly Hyundais have much better road position but on the other hand, both of their cars must finish whereas Toyota can afford to lose one as Saturday points alone guarantee great haul for them.
Toyota is now 8 poins ahead of Hyundai (554 vs 546). You have live points on official website.
Makes senseQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
WOW!! Congrats to Thierry and Martijn. So weird season for all three previous champions with all the mistakes. This is so unusual for Ott. This is why I love rallying!! ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
Without a gravel crew, crazy that the team made such stupid choiceQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
It is moving up (example with Rovanpera in Finland)Quote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
From my calculation
511 + 18 (1st, Evans) + 15 (2nd, Ogier) = 544
526 + 8 (5th manufacturer, Neuville) + 6 (6th, Mikkelsen) = 540
Katsuta not counting as he is 3rd Toyota.
IMO its 8 points difference, Mikkelsen doesn't score and Evans moves to P1 (18p)..
Btw, did you see that Andreas had a cover on the radiator, now dissapeared. That was the reason for his coolant on the windscreen?
Imagine if Mikkelsen helps Hyundai win the Manus title here... and then they bin him for Fourmaux.
Love is in the air..Quote:
Originally Posted by htr
Katsuta is insurance for Toyota, he doesn't count for Saturday currently but will count if they lose either of the others. Also, Katsuta can attack freely (as per their strategy pre-Tanak) as he has least to lose from Saturday (or nothing if two others finish). In that sense, Toyota has upper hand as they can lose one car with minimal or no effect whereas another loss for Hyundai is terminal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny0405
Yep, Toyota is in better situation than Hyundai for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by jonkka
But considering the road position and that Neuville is now freed, it is not over for Hyundai.
Interesting stuff to see.
Looking forward to see happy Neuville flatout on tarmac for the first time in 2024 basically
Congrats to Neuville & Wydaeghe, well deserved. Gotta say though it's a very anti-climactic way to end the season, and it's weird that they interview him as champ before the rally is over, really weird, like this entire season has been.
I seriously hope next year will be more normal, but hopfully more comptetitive with Neuville now finally winning the championship he (hopefully) will have the confidence to push Kalle all the way to the title. I also hope Tänak gets his mojo back and stop making these silly silly mistakes, if we can get a 3 way fight like we used to back in 2017-2019, I'll be pleased.
So is Mikkelsen taking points from Saturday? Is the gap 4 points?? If yes, game on guys
The crash in better quality:
https://x.com/OfficialWRC/status/186...1wMbuSq3w&s=19
I have a wild idea that if Fourmaux's heading to Hyundai, Cyril might ring him on the phone that he should DNF... That would help Hyundai massively...
Edit: But only if he doesn't manage to beat any of the first two Toyotas today.
If I’m right, my calculations is like this. After saturday point are Toyota 544 and Hyundai 534. Now if Hyundai drivers get mas sunday points (1st and 2nd sundey + PS) they will get 22. If Toyota gets next positions on sunday (in front of Ford - 3rd and 4th) tey will get 14. Whit this points Toyota wins manufacturer championship.
Maybe I’m wrong, correct me please.
I don't think so, he retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
From my understanding yes, Munster always took the 6 points even in Super Rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
And if Mikkelsen-Neuville are 1-2 for Sunday and Ogier-Evans 3-4, it’s a tie before the Power Stage (title for Toyota in case of ties because of more rally wins).
I know he is the champ now... but still.. zero words from Neuville about like.. sry for Ott and it isn't how I wanted to get the title..
But okay.. Thierry had a really stable seadom and that brought the title!