Ding ding, we have a winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
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Ding ding, we have a winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
'Nothing happened we drive (on) Pirelli' lolQuote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
Surely the organisers give him a huge chunk of time back. He's been on the paceQuote:
Originally Posted by wwbroe
Solbergs car looks like a "Mad Max" film car!
At this rate Serderidis will be on the podium!
... behind 2 WRC2 cars! :D
FYI:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Hokkaido
As in Formula 1, do you recommend tire pressures to the teams?
"In Formula 1 what you propose must be respected, here instead we suggest the pressure on, then in the end a lot depends on the choice of drivers. In rallies everything is more difficult than on the track where you can easily control things: and then the driver may have a problem, he has to get out of the car and solve things. In short, the system is completely different, so imposing the controls here would mean entrusting an extra task to the driver, who already has enough. Just see yesterday (on Saturday, ed), with eight tests without being able to assist: so much of the weight goes to the driver. It's tough, so I also understand that sometimes it's pointless to tell the teams to use a certain amount of pressure when they, in their haste, can't do it. However, when hot, depending on the technology and the bottom, our suggestion is to work between 2.3 and 2.5 bar. On all tires."
https://www.quattroruote.it/news/spo...ticolari_.html
"I didn't expect such a comment from Ogier." - said nobody :D
Serderidis looking like a coal miner there.
Also Prokop is stopped in the stage, not so far from the end
Instead of coming to the events, Ogier should just give his number 1 to Rovanperä to have on his windows ;)
Greek Puma parked up after finish of Kedong 2. Just waiting to go into the sand pit now :bounce:
When there is situation with dust and Taka, I would like to know your opinion about this giving times by CoC/stewards from green table when they were slowed by previous driver (dust or just reached him)? In the past, nothing like this happened (I mean times from table), it was counted as "part of rally", but in last months/years they are giving more and more similar times. What do you think about it?
Stage is stopped because of Prokop, who stuck in the middle of sandy road.Quote:
Originally Posted by J4MIE
Thanks Pluto, we are waiting on start line. Been given a thumbs up that it’ll restart.
Ben, the WRC+ interviewer: "Seb, you lost 2 minutes and 10 seconds to Kalle, what happened?"
Ogier: "Nothing, we drive Pirelli!"
Becs, the WRC+ commentator: "Mmmh, so we still have no idea on what part of the car the problem is."
Me: *facepalm*
I honestly wonder if WRC+ have some rule or regulation that stops them from criticizing Pirelli, or even acknowledging the existence of anyone else's criticism of Pirelli.
well this aged well........ where is M-sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Originally Posted by MentalParadox
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Originally Posted by MentalParadox
They are probably getting too many dinners with x avec, so it is a bit hard to be a critical journalist!
Still waiting for Ford to make them a proper factory team.Quote:
Originally Posted by logic
And they should now as the Puma will be their only car when they end production of the Fiesta & Focus...
https://www.motor1.com/news/593700/f...-end-2025/amp/
Loeb re-start tomorrow confirmed.
And also Breen said they would start again tomorrow, apparently it was their steering that failed which made them hit those rocks in the straight part of the stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
I think it's worth turning this around.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
When Michelin/BF Goodrich was the sole supplier I don't really recall any drivers saying how bad "Michelin" is.
Rather it was "FIA should allow us mousse" or "stages too rough".
This calling names is basically a thing from Østberg last year (who was paid by Michelin the year before) and Ogier (who is French, which does matter in this case).
How Michelin would fare vs Pirelli in this case is completely unknown as they did not start on Safari last year and were never used on Rally1 cars.
The self-censorship on name calling is certainly there, but that's common for everything else that is "single supplier" in WRC.
Not just Østberg... Pirelli receives similar criticisms in Formula One from a number of drivers for a number of reasons. I don't think you can really dismiss all of that with arguments like "because this guy is French" or "this guy had a deal with rival company x". That can't apply to all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Anyway, they can self-censor all they like, but the part I dislike (and personally, find a little creepy) is when they don't even acknowledge what the driver said. As if they literally did not hear it. I'm not asking them to agree with Ogier. Just at least admit he said what he said. You're supposed to be journalists! When the interests of a corporation and the journalists interviewing them become too entangled, they cease to be journalists and become an unofficial PR department of that corporation.
Do you think you'll ever come round to believe your own explanation of what'll happen is already happening as intended?Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
Becs said: Not giving us much info on where on the car that puncture was.... moves on to Solberg on screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
I understood she said we don't know which part of the car has the problem as in which tyre was punctured. We only had some in car footage of him stopping so the context was we didn't know which tyre was punctured. It hadn't occurred to me she might be "censoring" and i don't think she was. Of course the official commentators won't emphasize Pirelli complaints buy to say they are censoring is perhaps reading too much into it.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCStan
In Formula 1 every brand gets a lot of criticism, Michelin certainly did when they retired all cars from US GP back in 2006? or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
What I was pointing out is how nobody was naming tire brand in WRC before even om cases with same number of punctures (Østberg). But with Pirelli a few drivers suddenly use the brand name all the time.
I think AnttiL at some point even compared number of punctures over a few rallies and they were the same.
Interesting one, increasingly important that every tenth counts. Can't blame a competitor for trying but what point does it become a nuisance for the Coc/stewards to be reviewing video, making judgements and doing maths over more small things. Their call to have a tough stance when it matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Taka's leg stages:
+0.88s/km
+0.1
+0.24
+0.22
+0.03
+0.99
Only has first split in his favour to go off, lost time to Kalle at the end of the stage which had nothing to do with Craig's dust. Give him +0.24 again based on first pass, he'll be 3secs off Kalle. Doesn't matter really, he'll be third of the Toyotas - but should be given something to take Tanak for now.
When Pirelli are in competition with other tyre suppliers, they tend to come off worse. It doesn't matter what series it is. Which is why they tend to prefer a single supplier status.......
And even last week, in the Tour of Slovenia cycling event the current Tour de France winner was criticising his Pirelli tyres on a descent......which I thought was funny.
Pirelli were on a hiding to nothing coming in to the WRC. They were always going to get some stick after taking over from the established brand (Michelin) after so many years. It was almost impossible for them to compare favourably.
Katsuta now up to second place, 14.6 seconds behind leader Rovanperä, with Evans 7.8 seconds behind in third & Tänak in fourth, only 2.9 seconds behind Evans.
https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2022/wrc...ime-amendment/
no thats wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
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However, once the 48-year-old completed Stage 4 the engine on his hybrid Rally1 Ford Puma cut out, before a small fire broke out in the engine bay that co-driver Isabelle Galmiche promptly extinguished.
With the engine out of action, Loeb engaged electric power to navigate the road section back to the service park, but ran out of battery power and was forced to pull over five kilometres shy of service.
Loeb said there was no warning of the engine issue before it struck.
“We were going normally, we went to the stop control and the engine stopped,” Loeb told Autosport.
“We tried to restart and it didn’t restart, and there was smoke coming out of the bonnet. I opened it and there was a little fire.
“We then used electric mode and we did 10kms. We had no battery any more and the car stopped 5km from service.”
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/l...utm_content=uk
Reverse rally classification order today, which means Sébastien Loeb opens the road.
Loeb
Fourmaux
Breen
Greensmith
Serderidis
Solberg
Ogier
Neuville
Tänak
Evans
Katsuta
Rovanperä
Five Pumas starting at the head of the field, today. Not the sort of optics Malcolm came to see! I think he will go back to watching WRC at home, again.
Yeah Formaoux broke the car, he went crazy fast compared to breen
First puncture of the day to Fourmaux
What the hell???