https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/the-f...-story-so-far/
https://www.m-sport.co.uk/single-pos...e-breaks-cover
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More interesting info on the Fiesta Rally1 from CAR Magazine & their journo given a passenger ride:
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/amp/ca...rc-rally1-puma
Or Puma, whichever you prefer ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Ha ha - Puma is going to take some getting used to !Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I thought you joked how the car is actually a Fiesta in a Puma disguise :P
Was it as hard for you when Focus turned to Fiesta ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Do you even remember when Escort become Focus ?
You'd have to be blind not to see THAT difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Matt Wilson on the Puma test in Finland...
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/how-2...speed-finland/
The whole article kind of contradicts itself...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
saying how awesome the new car is in Finland based on Matt Wilson who said he hasn't driven in Finland in 10 years (so not current gen cars) and Fourmaux who only drove R2 (not Rally2) car there in 2019 (dunno about tests).
Sure it might feel great to drive, but hard to say how it compares to current car in Finland based on feedback from these two.
These media outlets have a self-imposed obligation to be positive about the sport, no matter what happens. Sometimes this leads to hilarious cases of doublethink, like when Dirtfish claimed that the Safari was only a fraction of its former length, yet the challenge had not been diminished - all in the same sentence. Now that we're on this topic, have you ever know any WRC pundit to be openly critical of something the sport is doing? Of course not, the sport is a business and they are its employees.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Be fair, Dirtfish just quote Matt Wilson in that article and dont comment on his statements about how the new Puma performed and how it felt.
And we all want news and info about the latest cars and we should be glad M-Sport are being so open with their testing and speaking to the media.
By the way, when are we going to get any more from Hyundai and Adamo about their 2022 car ? They cant test it totally at their own secret facility.
Fourmaux on the Puma after the first tarmac test:
https://rallyinsight.com/2021/08/31/...d-rally1-puma/
More from Fourmaux:
“Really, I can take a lot of pleasure from driving this [Puma Rally1]. When you have the full hybrid, the car feels incredible – so much pace.
“I am still learning a little bit with the hybrid, like the other drivers, but it’s really interesting to work on the strategy and to play a little bit with when you are going to use it. It’s really something new and another interesting challenge for next season.”
Official test vid on WRC.com
https://www.wrc.com/en/video/player/?videoId=919758
The World Rally Championship has outlined further details regarding the use of hybrid power next year and its move to reach carbon net-zero status by 2030.
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...uture/6662252/
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/neuvi...a-over-rally1/
Neuville dislikes the new rules
Sounds like a small boy when they take his favourite toy from him..Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Sure the new cars are likely slower and harder to drive/turn and change gears in.
But while the current cars saw great competition in 2017-2019 they also led to the reduction of WRC to two competetive teams and kept Skoda from entering even though they were about to.
So to stay alive WRC simply had to change.
IDK about you guys but Im still not buying that WRC has only 2 (+ford) manufacturers because of the costs or because they are not "green enough"... but the "solutions" would probably kill what WRC is all about
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There could be other reasons....but nobody wants to discuss them.
You guys also need to remember that WRC is not a closed environment and the WRC rules are not the only reason manufacturer or spectator interest changes in some direction. The world around WRC changes as well.
Have to admit that this is also true.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I wish to know . if the 2022 car with hybrid unit drive like the f1 car with kers??
release the extra power for ten seconds and then start to recharge to release again .is that the mode??
Yes, it appears to be a Kers type system. Here is the only explanation of its planned operation I have read. https://www.wrc.com/en/news/2021/wrc...inable-future/Quote:
Originally Posted by 1988senna
Martin Järveoja gave an interview to Estonian media after Greece and they (didn't understand if Hyundai or all teams) are arguing/in discussions with the FIA about the co-driver's seat position which is unnatural and uncomfortable and if FIA would accept changes then also it would be more safe in Järveoja's opinion.
General question was that if they have been already testing the new hybrid and he said that there has been some km's of testing but the end of the season will be very busy as the cars have to be ready in January.
Great write-up of the latest hybrid WRC info by WRC Wings:
https://www.wrcwings.tech/2021/09/14...-implications/
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...finland-adamo/
Quote:
“The fact is that we are testing for sure, it’s not a matter of if we are not testing, but it’s also true we don’t have many things to show,” Adamo admitted.
“The bodywork and the other things are not really representative of anything, we prefer to stay a bit hidden.
“I really think that we can get something ready to show in November.
Makes sense as the current "mule" bodywork aero is kind of non-existing.
It could be a double bluff by Adamo re the bodywork. As WRC Wings points out, the hybrid power boost could make having a low-drag car a bigger benefit.
https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/n...uture/6662907/
I wonder if Neuville feels any different after the latest test of the Hyundai Rally1 ?
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-c...seat-position/Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Maybe I have not followed the topic, but why do co-drivers sit so low? And when this started?Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
center of gravity,and protection from crashes.
Car development updated after months of no real-road running, plus rumours of a big suspension re-design.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
FIA didn’t change the regulations meanwhile…Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Like they were going to change them because of one driver's opinion. Only Neuville is complaining, the others all seem pretty happy with the new cars. He will come round by Monte Carlo.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
In an interview with Auto Hebdo , the transalpine official explained that, despite not seeing so much news of Hyundai tests, they are working. "By the time of the Acropolis Rally we already had four tests done on asphalt" , he assured.
He acknowledged discretion in testing, "We test, but it's not to show in press releases. It seems to me that our competitors are very interested in showing their cars on social media."
https://iris-cpidt-pt.translate.goog...r_pto=nui,elem
Hyundai Motorsport team principal Andrea Adamo has revealed that an all-new i20 Rally1 will break cover at the end of next month.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/hyund...er-next-month/