Many potential customers present in Poland?
Have they actually sold 20 cars to ERC teams/drivers or just a few?
Are there people from customers to national series as well?
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Many potential customers present in Poland?
Have they actually sold 20 cars to ERC teams/drivers or just a few?
Are there people from customers to national series as well?
I heard that the first units are reserved to ERC. 2 portuguese reserved to national championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Belgian team My Hub has ordered 1, should be delivered in April they said.
GR4 YARIS RALLY3
Jari-Matti Latvala, new team principal, confirmed that the GR4 Yaris will be the base model of all Toyota cars starting in 2022:
“The new four-wheel drive Yaris GR4 will become the next generation WRC car. We also have the ability to produce the car in other categories. This is something Toyota is currently considering, but no final decision has been made. It would be quick and easy to transform the GR Yaris into a Rally2 and Rally3 class car ".
Having ascertained that in 2022 the hybrid Rally1 will be a GR4 Yaris, Latvala spoke of the lower class cars, focusing attention on the Rally3 category:
“The way I see it, the new Rally3 appears to be a more interesting category than Rally2 and could build on the success of Group N close to production models. Something could move in 2023”.
there are no reservations, you want to buy, you pay and you collect the car, still possible to get it in March.
Better.
Answers to some of your questions as well as some photos and videos can be found at https://pl.motorsport.com/wrc/news/d...dem-z-krakowa/ (sorry, article in Polish only).Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
There were as many as 50 drivers participating in the test session. Maciej Woda (M-Sport Poland) says that they have 200 customers already interested in this car.
From what I saw in the different videos released from the mega-test in Poland. it looks like a good gapfiller btw Rally2 and 4, also budgetwise.
I am guessing many of the testers are chasing budget to ride a Rally3 Fiesta this year.
If Homologated 1 March, they need to start to show off what it can do in different rallies.
I was hoping they could run it as coursecar in Arctic Rally, but maybe too late.
What did the drivers interviewed in the Motossport.com video say (Kaperczyk and Wroblewski)
They were both surprised how the car behave in general. Kasperczyk - easy to drive from the very beginning, you jump in and feel the car immediately. Wróblewski - you can feel low weight of the car, as 2WD, but 4x4 helps a lot and gives stability. Both saying that it is perfect step between 2WD and Rally2 and regrets that similar option wasn't available few years ago, when they started with R5.
I was on the test ;) and from our point of view (I mean specators/media - guys watching cars next to the road) it is very nice car. It looks and sounds very nicely. After the ride I can not say much, because I am not a rally driver. But I was impressed how the car took the muddy section.
Is the Rally3 using the same Pirellis as the Rally2, or a different one?
pretty much what you just wrote ;) Most of the drivers were suprised by the ease of adapting to this car right from the first kilometers, they also said the suspension does a good jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I saw Sottozerro for gravel/ice stage and Cinturato for circuit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
I guess so... in the appendix J you can see that the same rims are allowed for both classes - 6"X15"Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
FIA has no March homologation day...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Next one is in April but maybe it was homologated in January.
WRC Arctic Rally has only 1 tyre for all 4wd cars, so even WRC uses same one than Rally3Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Gravel one could be different type but size is same what WRC cars use, 205/15"
So guessing FIA have quarterly homologation dates. Is next one 1 april then?
Next Finnish Championship event O.K Auto ralli (March 5-6th) has entry from
M-Sport Poland Generic:
Ken Törn Ford Fiesta
(Class6: newWRC, R-GT, Rally3 + other FIA spec even without valid homologations)
FIA should have a class like that, so factories and tuners could test against the top opposition, in the last stage before homologation.Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
Does other nations hve a class like this in their system, or is Finland alone?
On that date, car allready homologated.
Some clips and pics of last two days of test in Poland by Ken Torn
https://www.facebook.com/odcinkitestowe/
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu8IVuhW...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu8IVupX...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu8IVuvX...pg&name=medium
Ok, we are getting close to debut for the Rally3 class.
Looking at the startlist, what cars will the new Fiesta match when we talk times?
https://www.ewrc-results.com/entries...to-ralli-2021/
R4 mini, GroupN, N5, or rally4?
Make your guesstimates!
I'm preety sure that with that driver it will be in the top half of the R5'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
The Rally2Kit Mini and N5 car are not in hands of really fast drivers so the comparisons won't be reasonable. However, it will be interesting to see the pace against the Mitsubishis, since we have good data from last year when Tahko was driving the Rally2Kit Mini and being close to the Mitsubishis.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
My guess is that the Rally3 car will very close to the Mitsubishis. 2 s/km slower than fastest Rally2 car.
Torn / Taniel on snow: https://twitter.com/ewrcresults/stat...831673859?s=21
https://www.instagram.com/tv/CMAiFgy..._web_copy_link
On board on snow with Ken Torn
First stage time for Rally3 car. The Class 2 cars are Mitsubishis, just a bit slower than them
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvyIotlW...ng&name=medium
EDIT: a quite fast stage.
Imo it's expected results so far on this type of roads.
Official results of SM O.K. Auto-Ralli - https://www.rallism.fi/content/fi/3/...eseuranta.html
Live stream from stages - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyrWYmmmd2o
So far only marginally faster than rally4, but guess it's quite a fast rally so it was expected
Looks a bit like the stages are nice and flowing, and not much mickey mouse and start and stop.
If that is so, it explaines little difference btw the Rally3 and Rally4 cars.
Seemed like Torn fine tuned some settings, since he got closer to the front last couple of stages.
Ok debut, but guess it is more to be gained once drivers get to know the possibilities of the car.
End of the rally. Ken Torn and his new Fiesta finished in the 11th position overall, just 17 seconds behind the best Mitsubishi Lancer and 41 seconds faster than the best Rally4 car. Not bad!
IMHO Quite good debut.
We can not expect miracles becuase the power is reasonably limited. I guess the car is more fun to drive than the Gr. N cars because it is much lighter but the deficit of some 80 Hp or so is still there. I think that the low weight will play more important role in twistier events.
its not a bad result,but was the n4 drivers as good as Torn?
I don't know if it was posted here or not - a short video from Ken Torn's tests in Poland from February:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD7BDHzKQLA
6 photos from SM O.K. Auto-Ralli:
https://www.facebook.com/MSportPolan...type=3&theater