Pity they missed showing several cars on the SS5 massive jump.
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Pity they missed showing several cars on the SS5 massive jump.
Nice time by markko on ss6
Bit better from Pietarinen now, Suninen still slow.
Very disappointed with suninen so far. Also with volver the last two stages, was quite good until then considering it’s his first 4wd event
I've not been that impressed with Suninen in WRC class either tbh, but when he takes a step back you'd expect him to be on the top.
Maybe the car is a long way from sorted yet.
Tänak got 10 sec penalty being 1 minutes late
I cant believe this is Suninen's or the car's true pace. I'll wait to hear from the team for their explanation.
Katsuta one stage time was not impressed too
Gorrrrrban !! Great jump in the Mini. :D
Gryazin fast again and spectacular to watch.
Solberg a bit steadier with having a good lead.
SS8 average 138.8 km/h
Thant’s stage the I mentioned before not believing what I saw.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Incredible
Long time I havent posted here anything. But have to say what a RALLY. Very fast and smooth roads. Many big jumps also. Everything what real rallyfan needs. Wrc tv is doing good job aswell. This rally belong to WRC calendar. Top level action.
And look at those two r5 youngsters. Just under 1.5sec/km slower than Tänak. Very Impressive. New Fiesta r5 still in progress.
Just watched Gryazins jump. That was something. Lucky escape :)
Solberg jr is future
Alright, so can we all now agree that Tänak is the baddest man on the planet. Period. I'm starting to hope that instead of M-Sport or TGR he would switch to WRC2 just to keep the main class competitive. Finland will be absolute murder, mark my words.
And Solberg... I'm somewhat lost for words. Up until now he was just a son of ex-world champ who did rallies in funny places like Latvia and the US. But boy oh boy can he drive!
Not that i don`t agree....but lets wait for Rally Finland first, this is Tänak`s home-event and also Yaris` "second" home event.:)
Too bad, they did`t show trucks at all.
Oh, and mknight...
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We can definitely agree that you are good at exaggerating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I'll take that as a compliment.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
He is impressive here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
Then again this is the kind of roads he drives since starting with R5. WRC runs on many different road types. This is the first time I have seen his footage over more than a corner or two and it looks quite ragged to me. Some corners great but some with tons of corrections and all over the place.
Progress so far is good though (after not that impressive R2 career). Hope he keeps it up, but I am just tired of the constant "XY is the next champion" shouting and think it often is counter-productive as it quickly can get into the heads of those young guys. They have not won anything... until they actually win it.
With regards to Suninen, he has been much more impressive in WRC than he ever was in WRC2. I think his style doesn't suit the slower, cleaner R5 cars.
Agree on the first part, dunno if it's the style but in WRC2 he was always kind of number 2-3 guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Also Suninen hasn't tested the new R5 Fiesta at all or been in the old R5 Fiesta in a long time
Suninen was also a lot more impressive in WRC2 when he drove a Skoda.
It's all good explanations. But as a sales promotion this event is just not working for MSport. Getting beaten by Polo and "old" Fabias.
Yes, presumably they brought Suninen here instead of Greensmith or Camilli in order to give the car a strong debut.
Passats de Canto vid is up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zDN6mJ2g2A
We already see the contours of the future. Kalle Rovanpera, Nicolay Gryazin and Oliver Solberg and there will probably be one from France and Storbitania as I know them and hopefully someone from the Baltic countries where the rally stands so high.
I dunno about Gryazin tbh. He has his "Russian driver" moments...like Lukyanuk and Novikov before that. What I mean by that is moments like he had in first stage, going so much over the limit at a given place that you wonder if he missed a note. (Novikov often just ignored the notes, like here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCmc7SRvo38 )
For me O.Solberg is the most impressive youngster in a long while, whether he will win championships only time will tell, but this kid has got the minerals...Rovanpera is also very good. I’ve said it before, I can’t wait for these two (And hopefully a few others) to graduate to WRC as I’m sure it will be exciting for us watching.
Got some massive jumps on video on SS4
https://vimeo.com/347935830
https://vimeo.com/347936057
https://vimeo.com/347936185
What you talking about? It's his second ever gravel rally on R5. And he progress massively! On first two events in LRC Gorban can match his speed and they fight for a win in two snow rally at Aluksne and Sarma. But in Liepaja and here in Estonia he destroy Gorban times!Quote:
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It's massive progress since last year and beginning of this year for him!
it's a wide lens or really 70+m jumps ? O_oQuote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
Air time looks too short for 70 m.
yeah, with a GoPro...My guess was around 60m. Could be more or less, but 50 for sure. Hard to determine with no distance boards.Quote:
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Are there other examples than the first stage today?Quote:
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New Fiesta R5 looks a little lazy/tame to me.Quote:
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Many estonians were hoping that Märtin will be something like Loeb from now on - close to top guys pace, stealing stage wins here and there. Based on his pace today, but much more based on his comments during last few days and today - IMHO its clear that its not going to happen. Loeb has always been racing since he left WRC, so coming back isnt so big thing for him. Märtin has done handful of for-fun events on some vintage 2wd cars over the years and thats it. It is hard to judge if he has the speed or if he could challenge todays top guys - as based on his comments he has made it clear that he doesnt even want to try. He has said that this car can be driven much faster but he doesnt want to. Also, his comments of hoping the day was already over, having doubts if this was a good idea in the first place etc - it seems that he doesnt have this competitors urge to best others any more. He is having fun at his own pace and when he feels like he has had enough for a day, he would like to go home, but rally isnt unfortunately over yet. I guess we can forget this hope that he will make some small comeback and be competitive, more likely this is last time he will be seen in WRC car. He has moved on and driving at speed isnt his "thing" any more.
About other competitors - behind obviously amazing Solberg, i am very happy about Aus. He is doing his first ever event in R5 and his pace isnt bad at all. That brings to my mind another "what if" moment - Aus is contemporary with Tänak, they were 2 blindingly fast youngsters some 15 years ago, in many ways equal back then. But when Tänak moved on to faster cars and then abroad, Aus was stuck on Lada VFTS and later some mediocre N4 machinery, then missing big parts of seasons in domestic championships, never really going abroad - but what if he had same opportunities, would he have been as fast as Tänak today? Obviously we can never know...
People has too high hopes about him. The ever realistic way was mentioned already that if he tops best R5 crews the job has to be considered well done. There's just no way you return after 15 years away and would battle with the top guys. Just no way. Going faster also increases the risk of going off significantly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indreq
For me Märtin has been just on the expected level. I guess I was the few estonians who did not have some unrealistic wet dreams about his performance level.
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I suppose, but purely speculate, that he might have lost his edge in his accident in 2005. Maybe he's scared of pushing the limits like before.Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
That's quite visible on the stages and obviously understandableQuote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
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