Pietarinen WRC2 entry was removed, so he definitely will do "only" WRC2 Pro :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
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Pietarinen WRC2 entry was removed, so he definitely will do "only" WRC2 Pro :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
So is Pietarinen actually driving a Skoda Motorsport serviced car in Sweden or not?
Emil Bergkvist will do full WRC2-season with a Fiesta R5 and run by J-sport.
Emil and Patrik Barth will start in the following rallies Sweden, Portugal, Sardinia, Finland, Germany, Spain and Wales.
They will start the season in the car he won last year, and when M-Sport to the summer presents their new Fiesta R5, they will switch to it.
Read more here:
https://www.facebook.com/emilbergkvi...&theater&ifg=1
Same system that Rovanperä is using, TGS car.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Using in Monte*Quote:
Originally Posted by pantealex
In sweden Kalle is driving a factory car and Pietarinen TGS one but both under Skoda Motorsport entry
Lol.. so I guess Skoda are helping with his entry costs so they can claim his points for the manufacturers title.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
https://twitter.com/AnttiL_WRC/statu...60492929335296Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
I tweeted the same and Jonne Halttunen liked the tweet, so I take that as a confirmation for my theory :D
So the difference between WRC2 and WRC2 Pro is who you name as the entrant on the form.
I think only factory team can nominate WRC2 Pro drivers, but they don't have to be actual factory drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Kalle was doing some snow testing yesterday. Kristian Sohlberg (Gus Greensmith's coach) comments
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This is quite interesting. It was limited to one day testing for WRC Pro per rally. This is full snow test ie for sweden. Does this mean he wount do the monday test in sweden or FIA is not controlling testdays after all?
https://twitter.com/Krisse_Sohlberg/...22545631875073Quote:
Maybe I was wrong in this, so it seems according to @JonneHalttunen. What a joke it is. What limited testing?
Kalle’s test was in the Czech Republic and with the new evo Fabia which hasn’t been homologated yet.. so maybe it doesn’t count?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oLzcyK-gI9o
Clever solution. Using the system...Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
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Originally Posted by AnttiL
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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Originally Posted by RS
I have just come across an interesting interview with Richard Millener from M-Sport. It's interesting that he says that M-Sport isn't funding any of the WRC2 Pro drivers and they actually hardly know Pieniazek:Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Is M-Sport funding the WRC2 Pro drivers?
“We’re not funding anybody this year apart from Elfyn and Teemu, they’re the only two people we are supporting.
“We’ve worked with Gus for quite a while now, coming up through Juniors, but we are doing all we can to help him on as many events as possible. He’s shown that he’s got the ability to get good results, and once somebody has been committed into the WRC like him for that long, we try to help where we can.”
What do you know about the second M-Sport WRC2 driver Lukasz Pienazek?
“We saw him last year in WRC2 and he had some good performances. Getting more experience in the WRC is still going to be the biggest thing that he needs to work on.
“I think it’s his first real time in a big team. We’ve met him a few times, not much more than that. He is a nice guy and seems to fit in well and knows what he wants to achieve.
“Our idea is to help him with everything we can and get some good results.”
Full interview at
https://rallysportmag.com/feature-ri...al-at-m-sport/
M-Sport Poland?
Which in the end is M-Sport and all in all has exactly the same budget?
Lukyanuk tests Polo R5 but no plans confirmed yet...
https://www.fiaerc.com/erc-champion-...er-fabia-test/
Andolfi confirmed wrc2 program with Skoda
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Originally Posted by AnttiL
It seems the whole idea of WRC2 Pro turns into hidden pay driving. Not only M-Sport, look at Citroen now:Quote:
Originally Posted by RS
Citroen Racing
''Proud to support our Citroën customers: Mads Østberg & Co-driver Torstein Eriksen will race in WRC2 Pro & behind the wheel of the #C3R5 - from Rally Sweden.''
source:
https://www.facebook.com/citroenracing/
Yep, they're really privateers but having their cars run by the works teams.
No. They are privateers and as competitor is written works team. Thats all... Car can be run (and will be) by privateers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Are we really surprised? Not even Skoda is fully funding their driver/drivers since Kalle is doing atleast Monte in a privateer car and they have been hinted to atleast 1 more outing this season with a privateer car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
I dont know how it was with Monte and Kalle, but we know from the past that sometimes Skoda paid for start of their drivers with private teams (Wevers, Kresta, Garde...).Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
Customer or not I think Mads is worthy of being called 'Pro', given his experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarek Z
But yes, the whole thing feeels a bit like a missed opportunity. Perhaps they'll tweak it for next year.
And Kalle will have Skoda Motorsport engineers assisting him in MC for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
So a works team just enters the privateer in WRC2 Pro to 'represent' them.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
M-Sport will enter Gus Greensmith but wont run his car ?
I really dont see the point of WRC2 Pro at all.
No one does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Just to bring some more extra cash to FIA;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
MSport will run Gus's car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
They just don't fund it.
Great "soup" by FIA
As someone who follows a lot of GT racing, I really don't get why people are upset at drivers bringing funding to works badged drives and 'customer' programmes. The factory supports the privateers who own the cars with drivers, funding and personnel - in turn, the car gets better results and the factory hopes to sell more cars. Pay driving isn't black or white; there are all sorts of levels of it.
Don't get me wrong, I hope WRC2 Pro becomes a proper second division with proper pay drivers and I'm disappointed that M-Sport won't have someone like Breen, Camilli or Evans to showcase the new car (at least on WRC events) from July, but reality is that we're still separating the teams with some works support from the drivers completely paying for their own programmes and I think that's the idea; to give the guys without factory backing something to compete for.
Yes, this is nothing new for M-Sport, even on WRC level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Mail
No offense to him, but i think he's the last guy that needs funding from M-Sport as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Just thinking that WRC2 Pro entrants are going to have a substantial advantage in Monte Carlo by being able to run their own ice crews.
Although I'm not sure how much 'note sharing' will go on with the privateers....
Atleast to my knowledge everyone in Monte is allowed to use ice crewQuote:
Originally Posted by Got Mail
You are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
I am an idiot.
Skoda Motorsport Monte preview makes no mention that Kalle will drive with a private team. Do we know who will run his car in Sweden?
Perhaps they will continue with this strategy until the new car is ready.
https://www.skoda-storyboard.com/en/...ry-of-r5-cars/
Still stupid that ''Pro''. And will be in december 2019 too.
Anyone know why Citroen didn’t nominate Bonato for ‘pro’?
He is top R5 now.
It's weird because I thought he was entered by Citroën in WRC2 pro
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