She deserved to be raped for dressing like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
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She deserved to be raped for dressing like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
The ditched burglary tools were not in evidence at the trial, so any discussion about them is suspect as all perspectives have not been investigated. Has anyone had them fingerprinted? If so, whose was the result?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagwan
The, admittedly, one sided testimony indicated that Martin started the actual physical part of the encounter.Quote:
And , the other had a gun , but was assaulted before he could use it .
Kinda sounds a trifle ambushy to me .
Not at this time.Quote:
By the way , do we know what the burglary tools were that were stashed under the bushes ?
The President is a "clown" and a "race baiter". What is a "race baiter". Is that a fishing term? How far has this nation fallen? Exactly?!Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
All you do is whine about President Obama and cheer for the verdict handed down in the Martin Zimmerman trial. Makes me wonder what part race plays in your constricted world.
so you agree that Zimmerman should have stayed in the car assuming that statement of yours is tongue-in-cheek.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
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Originally Posted by anthonyvop
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You don't get it do ya.
I was pointing out that low crime rates tend to go hand in hand with repressive Governments.
What don't you get? You believe that the Nuremberg Trials were a fiasco and that there was no crime under Hitler? You said it. I don't get it.
What I don't get is the fact that you use the murder of millions and state that crime was low. Lord help us if that is your opinion. Try to wriggle
out of your idiotic statement Anthonyvop.
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Originally Posted by ioan
Most European countries do not have the basic freedom of speech so yes....You are being repressed.
You don't get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spafranco
Crime was a big issue in Germany before the Nazis took over. They made it a major part of their election platform. Once they took over the came down hard on what they considered criminal and it quickly dropped.
The Soviets were also adept at keeping crime under control.
You have no grasp of irony. You were talking about how we accept crime in the US as a price of what we consider a freedom and right and I was just showing you that if you believe that the low crime is worth giving up your rights then you would have loved the Nazis and the Soviets.
So you take issue with the fact that he was out keeping an eye on the neighborhood in an effort to reduce crime? If protecting property is something you take issue with, remember that when someone robs your home or vandalizes your car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
You are Ioan, but to think I was in Watford not so long ago and lo and behold I actually managed to get to London city center without being accosted. I used the old trick of looking into windows to catch the reflection of someone following me because I had a baseball cap on and looked like an American, you know like that guy that was recently killed. Gee, I didn't even have a gun. Come to think of it, when I got to my hotel, I asked where I could buy one and the guy said, "would you like a Purdy or maybe a Midland, sir. 12 gauge, what?". "No a Glock 9mm ". "No sir, we don't need those damn things here. We might get a bloody bang on the head every now and then or a bloody nose but that is rare. In fact I heard of a recent case in your country where a 17 year old kid was shot by a guy who said he looked suspicious. Killed him right there. Kid was only 17. Guy that shot him got off too. Seems he got off with hitting a copper a couple of years ago. I say, isn't it a terrible state of affairs when a 17 year old accused of looking suspicious because he was wearing a hooded sweater is chased down by a man almost twice his weight and at least 10 years older and then gets killed because he stood up for himself. I wonder what the young chap thought. Maybe he thought this guy that has the same name as Bob Dylan, what is it, oh yes, Zimmerman looked really suspicious. Wasn't he told to stay in his car by a police dispatcher and ignored the advice"? Zimmerman I mean. Awful. You know I hate to say it but there are many people here in Europe and other countries that have changed their vacations to the States. Looking at the number of guns you have and the murder rate it seems safer to go to a Third world country where you are safer. You know, the US is the most violent country in the industrialized world?Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I couldn't argue a point as he was correct. 60 million people in Britain and probably the murder rate is not much more than a hundred or so per year.
Shoot them is your answer?Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
What in the name of all that is good and holy are you blathering about? Where on earth did I say crime was a part of being free?Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Stop cherry picking and address how you equate the murder of 6 million people under the Nazi regime as being part of a low "crime rate". Get with the program. Even answering you is making me nauseous.
Most European countries being Russia, Belarus, Ukraine and Albania, all of which are about the same freedom of speech level as the US.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
The other 30+ countries are obviously repressed into having to live with low levels of crime! I can live with this kind of repression!
You mean lil' George of the Jungle was out playing Batman that evening? Or was it Spiderman he was playing?!Quote:
Originally Posted by airshifter
Maybe people should stop watching those Hollywood movies, it would make them less susceptible to run after hooded Afro-American youths and get into physical contact with them. One effed up society, I tell ya!
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Originally Posted by ioan
Yep, the first thing Batman always does is call the cops and beg for them to hurry up to the scene.
I liked president Obama's speech yesterday. He was visibly upset with the tragedy in Trayvon Martin's family. Nonetheless, he basically said that the whole judicial process and verdict were just, specially due to the reasonable doubt standard. If you didn't know, he studied and taught law before getting into politics. He also went on to discuss some problems effecting the lives of primarily African-American communities in the US, such as a high level of black on black rate. Had a white politician said this, he would have been torn apart, but Obama's speech was praised all day long. To be frank about this issue and to have credibility with the public, the president who said this had to be black. Just like to have the credibility with the American people to end the Cold War and make a peace deal with Gorbachev, the US president Reagan had to be a Republican.
He made major mistakes in doubling down on stupid with the "trayvon could have been me" nonsense, and the even worse claim that things would have been different if trayvon would have been white. The media always slobs on Obama's knob no matter what he does or says so that's pretty much irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
Sure sure, because stereotyping does not happen in the USA, right?!Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
And police wouldn't delay investigating such a thing for weeks and weeks either, would they? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Who knows why the pres said that? Maybe the pres remembered the days when he smoked the pot or walked the streets wearing a hoodie? Who knows, I won't nitpick him for that. The pres did not need to lower his speech standard to the level of a run out of mill internet forum, you know. He also said that Martin's chances of dying from a hand of black person were much higher. That's was quite powerful remark. He did not express any sympathy for Zimmerman, but he also did not bash him like others do.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
Nitpick? he's supposed to the president of the united states. not a racist shill carrying water for pieces of trash like Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
Surely he did not, so why he sunk to an even lower level than an internet forum is shocking,Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
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Originally Posted by zako85
OMG he told the truth about SOMETHING. wow, what an amazing president. He didn't lie through his teeth. Of course just moments after saying that he qualified his statement about criminality among blacks being linked to slavery, right back to his blame whitey wheelhouse. So here's a giant racist turd burger to go with your sesame seed of truth.
Yes, interesting that he said nothing about a man who has had his whole life destroyed and has his whole family living in fear for the only reason that he dared defend himself from having his brains dashed out on a slab of concrete. How noble of him to not pour gasoline on that fire he was part in starting, what with the witch hunt his equally racist conartist heading the DOJs is leading.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
That's the part which I find most interesting. It's a true statement and has been true for many years. The same can not be said of the Asian, Hispanic, white or even indian populations. Why is that? And when are many of the so called black leaders going to wake up to the fact instead of blaming their woes on whites? It was said best in an old Pogo cartoon - "We have met the enemy and he is us.".Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
Fact is that Zimm got his ass kicked by a 17 y.o. boy, which basically demonstrates why his aplication was turned down by the police force, as they generally don't hire totall pussies for a job that requires the ability to subdue those you are stalking/observing. I also don't feel sorry for Martin, because the last thing that probably went through his mind beside the lead slug that the coward fired through it was:Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
How nice it fells to be beating the living crap out of that pussy of a wanna be cop.... Snap FTW.
The internet will never lack for tough guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
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Less than it does in Europe that is for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Nothing screams "Coward" louder than a guy who acts tough because he has a badge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
A 'professional police officer' probably would have had no trouble questioning, and detaining Martin if necessary, without having to "act tough". So be specific when you refer to professional law enforcement officers showing cowardice in this matter, or one exactly like it!Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Thanks in advance,
Vic
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Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
Ask the victims of Columbine how brave the police are. Ask the 1000's of innocent people who's homes are broken into and assaulted by "Brave" Swat teams wearing masks to hide their identity.
This just gets better and better
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He said something that's not entirely correct in this sanitized world created by our media. It takes guts to do that.Quote:
OMG he told the truth about SOMETHING. wow, what an amazing president. He didn't lie through his teeth. Of course just moments after saying that he qualified his statement about criminality among blacks being linked to slavery, right back to his blame whitey wheelhouse. So here's a giant racist turd burger to go with your sesame seed of truth.
Let's not pretend the Zimmerman was an innocent goat here. At very least, he is guilty of having had a very poor judgement. If he did not play a wanna be cop and stayed in his vehicle, as advised, none of this would have happened. Not guilty verdict does not mean innocent in a broad understanding of this word. We will never find out the full details of his altercation with Trayvon Martin. At worst, Zimmerman might have committed a manslaughter or a murder, but that couldn't be proved beyond a reasonable doubt in court.Quote:
Yes, interesting that he said nothing about a man who has had his whole life destroyed and has his whole family living in fear for the only reason that he dared defend himself from having his brains dashed out on a slab of concrete. How noble of him to not pour gasoline on that fire he was part in starting, what with the witch hunt his equally racist conartist heading the DOJs is leading.
Good God Tony, :laugh: how do any of your examples compare with the subject approach of a policeman in the Martin affair? Any cop (at least the ones in Southern Cal, Nevada, and Arizona that work my neck of the woods) would have the type of interview with Martin that would get his undivided attention round here (even if we do arrest too many people in Southern Cal.) The police are not to be messed with here, and put in the same situation as Zimm, would have ended it without killing Martin most assuredly) you follow instructions from the cops down here they won't kill you, but they might scare you :fat:Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Not something. One thing. ONE. And it doesn't make up for 20 minutes of unmitigated bull**** that came out of his race baiting mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
now you have taken to lying to defend the indefensible. he was NEVER told to stay in his car. He was told to keep an eye on trayvon to tell the operator if he did anything else. If anything, this was a suggestion to gt out of his vehicle to follow Martin. Only after he already got out of his car did the operator say "we don't need you to do that. After that, we have not seen one shred of evidence/proof that Zimmerman did NOT stop following Martin. So let's not pretend you have any idea what you are talking about. You don't. The only thing zimmerman was guilty of was being born with his German last name. If his name was Gonzales, no one would heard of or cared about this case.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
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Reading your posts leaves me without any doubt as to who the biggest racist on these boards lies. It seems to me, just observing and getting ready for forceful expulsion of dinner with your every post. If it isn't Trayvon Martin it's the President. Why don't you just put your burning cross on display and be done with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by vhatever
[quote="anthonyvop"]Less than it does in Europe that is for sure.[/QUOTE
Damn, you're so educated on everything European. I wonder what Andorra is like? Hmm, you where it is Tony. Tell me what type of stereotyping exists there.
Hey Alca you rockpile the reason we have guns is because when some effing punk want to ground and pound we just cap them. you see the idea is all people don't have to
look like NFL players to survive.
I bet you feel a surge of intelligence when you post these pearls! :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
1,000's? as ludicrous as your who's!Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
I agree that only a black President (or any other politician) could say that without backlash, but to me... that is due to the racist undertones of the nation. If it's a true statement it shouldn't matter who says it, the reception should be the same IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by zako85
I personally think that for the most part the well known and followed religious leaders that claim to protect the black community stir the pot for self serving reasons and really have no interest in racial equality. Some of the lesser known types speak what they think is truth, regardless of the reaction. For the most part I really think that the now gone true civil rights leaders would roll in their graves if they knew what their movements were turned into over the decades.
I agree that in most places a uniformed cop is hiding behind nothing, and to be honest don't get the stab at police. As for SWAT teams, masks protect identities which protects families and off duty people. Considering the types involved in higher level crimes not cowardly at all IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Alca-Tazizzle
But in all fairness, cops are identified by uniform and also open carry their weapons. I don't think Florida law allows open carry by normal citizens. I have no idea if a community patrol or neighborhood watch could adopt uniforms, but I doubt most people would want to deal with that either.
Carry as many guns as you want hoss, All I'm saying is that a real cop would have handled the Martin incedent much better than that pudgy little ******* Z.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Officials: George Zimmerman helped 4 get out of overturned SUV a few days after his acquittal | Fox News
Looks like the wanna-be cop is up to it again. Thankfully the people who he helped were not troglodyte savages who tried to beat him to death.