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A massive crash and Riccardo wins the GP. I hope
Stupid Maldonado in the last lap!
he ploughed into himself :sQuote:
Originally Posted by gloomyDAY
Well done Jenson! Just as expected.
No, he wasn't. When the SC came out, his just did a 5-6 faster S2 than either McLaren guys. Or anyone else on the grid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
How was he going to get past Hamilton who had been leading him by 2 seconds and was on new tyres?
Maldonado needs to get a beating.
And what the **** did Rosberg with Perez?!
Well, Button the best driver.
Red Bull the fastest car
What on earth happened with Rosberg?
I have no idea. What about Riccardo?
i think rosberg overtook on the inside of the track on turn 8Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
What are you dreaming about there? What 2 seconds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Lewis was getting slower and when he pitted Seb went faster and used his tires better than Lewy. Seb was ahead of Hamy before they caught up with the SC.
I fail to see how the SC influenced whether Seb was going to overtake Hamy or not? Maybe you can elaborate on your philosophy.
pretty dissapointed with Hamilton p3 it was all about the poor start by Hamilton and that was that :(
but p3 isn't a bad start
and a poor decision to bring both cars in
also did vettel adhere to the delta time once the SCD came out?
oh well
thankfully we only have a week until the next race
Maybe the other way around McLaren faster than RB and Vettel the best driver as he managed to beat one of the McLarensQuote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Usual Rosberg stuff, going backwards during the race.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
he was rather slow on teh track before going for the pit road, so I guess he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
Before rapunzel pitted under SC, he did a S2 that was 5-6 seconds faster than anyone else for whatever reason. If I remember correctly, he did a 29,9 in S2 (very slow time, but others were even slower due to yellow flags), whereas Hamilton and others were doing something like 34-35 seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Before pitting Hamilton had been 2 seconds in front of Vettel and now was on new tyres and in this idiotic era the first one to pit gets the advantage usually.
So rapunzel was not gonig to get past Hamilton.
Final results?
He should have been happy with his 7th place.Quote:
Originally Posted by truefan72
I would totally forgive Maldonado for that mistake. He drove a really good race and just tried a bit too hard to catch Alonso. I wonder if Frank Williams will be so understanding ;)
Rapunzel was not even better than Webber today pacewise. So racepace wise there is no question - Red bull is the fastest car.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
I wonder if KERS was working for Mark today or did Helmut "cock" Marko make sure it wasn't working today either. Could not have old Webbo beating the golden girl of the team.
Hamilton maintained a 2 second gap over vettel for most of the race and judging by the fact that Webber could not get past Hamilton despite drs advantage I think it is safe to say that Hamilton would have stayed 2ndQuote:
Originally Posted by ioan
What a moronic thing to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
This may have been Button's best drive ever - total control from the start
Seb was on warm soft tires vs Hamiy on cold mediums, maybe this helps you with the puzzle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
rest assured if Seb did something wrong Whitmarsh would have been complaining by now.
Well I guess in you opinion 12th is better. As for your garbage language, what should I say more. I hope pino gives you a good rub.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Ok, so I was right to say Ferrari won't be a midfield runner. They will fix things in 2-3 races. Alonso was 4th from 12th, and the SC robbed him of a position, and he lost the heat in the tyres after the SC. Ferrari still has problems with tyre heat. With heavy fuel and mediums Alonso was only .2 slower than the front runners, with light load ,he could not get the tires heated properly and was .7-.8 slower.
Areas to iprove:Qualifying, Top speed, strategy. Slow trap speeds made it hard to overtake. Again Domenicali doesn't understand his car, because Alonso should have come out with softs for the last stint, that would have allowed him to retain 4th position.
Not bad though considering the start, 7 places gained.
Massa is a passenger, a non-factor, please get Kubica in the car or the Ferrari-driver program driver Perez in that second car.
Yup. Button was shockingly good today. :up: :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
New mediums are faster than used softs.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
It is not that rapunzel did something wrong, he simply was lucky to get through the sector before the SC message came up, so he could go faster than others. Typical luck for him.
If you had followed LT, then you would have noticed how everyone on new tyres (including mediums) at once were faster than before.
Great race. Jenson Button showed that with each passing season he is getting better and better. He responded to his loss from Hamilton yesterday in the best possible way and obliterated him today. I am very, very impressed. I am equally impressed with Vettel. The world champion showed a fighting spirit, progressed nicely trough the field and although he never threatened Button, beat Lewis, which was important. Red Bull need to fix their qualy pace, however. I am not impressed with Hamilton, I am sad that M Schumacher retired and I am happy that Kimi scored points. Alonso was impressive as well, another awesome drive.
They are racers and to say one should be satisfied with 7th is just so stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
What garbage language, what are you crying about?
Interesting. Can Kubica even drive around the block on his own?Quote:
Originally Posted by CavallinoRampante
What to say. If you think that 12th is better than 7th it's your business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
I'm just wondering what happened to Hamilton in this race. Did he have any particular problem? It was strange to see him being considerably slower than Button, particularly in the first stages of the race.
That's what I hear, that he can drive, but has low strength in his arm, but he's building back muscle...
Of course he'd need time but Massa isn't scoring points so give the guy a chance to come back!
So, you are trying to omit that Seb's softs were at optimal temp while Hamy's mediums were cold. Ahem, nice try but it doesn't float at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Anyway most important is that Vettel went from 6th too 2nd and he's in the fight this season! Bring on Sepang!
Good Race, not one of the best, but an interesting one non the less.
Great Drive from Button today, really would have coasted home 10-15 seconds clear if not for the SC, but a great start and again shows he is getting better all the time, something Lewis can't handle.
Lewis looked so disapointed today, this could well see him on a spiral of poor form again, as he doesn't seem to take losing well.
He was probably looking after Nicole on the big screens! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by N4D13
He'd need about one more year before he can even keep up with the HRTs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavallinoRampante
Kubica hype is crazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Where did I say that? Can you quote me or are you making up things as usual when backed into corner?Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
These guys are racers and if you think they should be satisfied with 7th places then you need help. They will always try to get a better place and if they stop doing that and are satisfied with 7th places, then they should retire at once. Sometimes you get it wrong, of course.
You guys are failing to see that RB was slow on HEAVY FUEL LOAD.... Alonso was faster on HEAY FUEL than the bulls
I don't really think that we will ever see Kubica in a F1 car ever again. He could race in other forms of motorsport, but it doesn't look like his hand will fully recover, which would make it practically impossible for him to drive an F1 car. It's a disgrace, but that's the way I think it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by CavallinoRampante
You keep saying that he was doing good losing 7th for 12th by going for a crazy move in the last lap. F1 is driven for points, especially in the last lap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Garry Walker
Mercedes goes away without points from a race where they should have got a lot more, due to mechanical failure and driver stupidity.