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Starting list into second leg - Cyprus Rally 2011 - Start order - leg 2 - Rally-Base
he was fast at gravel ,snow even at 16 years old with a wrc car at rallies with good competition.At tarmac he wasn t at the same level,but i straggle to find a faster one, at his age with a wrc.Can you find a faster?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
About struggling to find a faster one with a wrc at that age is very difficult because only a few a very few got his chances at that age. :D No superrally for Neuville all for Golden Stage!
Don't forget Juho for the golden stage, or Nasser!Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
I was thinking about Juho's accident and what makes this so stupid is that he didn't even need to go flat out and win this one to take the title.
Like Mousti mentioned it's hard to find another young driver to compare to as there propably aren't any. Yes, Mikkelsen did score some good times in 2007, but still he's overall performance was only a scratch on a surface as compared to today.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Hanninen Crash Cyprus IRC 2011 - YouTube Video of Hänninen crash. bad angle from camera.
Btw, Were did Grönholm rolled on the other side on the road ? Was it cyprus , the place look the same
ok find somebody at the age of 20-22 with a wrc to be faster on tarmac.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
I got lost. What are we/you trying to prove with this?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
i am trying to find a faster driver than Mikkelsen at young age with a wrc in tarmac.because he was very young as you said i am trying to find somebody at 20-22 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
First, is there anyone? Novikov in 2009? Östberg in 2007? Latvala in God knows when? But why we need to find a young driver in WRC faster than Mikkelsen?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Duval :p . His debut in the Focus WRC in Sweden was very impressive also.. Everything can change in years..Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
if you can t find a faster one,how you claim that he wasn t fast on tarmac? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
What I've been trying to tell, he is now fast and consistent enough to win rallies and most likely tomorrow take the IRC title. Overall classifications, not age-grouped juniors. When Mikkelsen started however, he wasn't winning rallies and was - and is - on a learning curve for few years - and of course his current pace in WRC machinery is a mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
that there are not a lot of drivers with his chances at so young age we can t say that he wasn t fast out of box.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Sardinie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Micke_VOC
Gronholm had rolled in Cyprus but in gravel ss. It was an uphill left hand u turn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micke_VOC
Stage 6, first stage of the day, should be live.
It seems that Rally Radio is not yet awake, come on Colin
Again GPS-problems with the "dots" on the screen?
MP3 interviews after leg 1: Autosport : IRC - Cyprus Rally & Golden Stage (IRC)
Mikkelsen is trough with 13.03.9
Nasser is slower by 6.9 sec compared to Andreas.
Relative good time for Kopecky, second fastst trough and coming back to Nasser in overall classification.
Good time for Sandell, third quickest trough and overtaking Loix in overall classification.
Look at Karl Kruuda's time, he is second fastest trough now, only 2.4 sec slower as Andreas. :eek:
Good morning guys!
Well, Lately there was an interview with Kruuda in Estonian and he said that his Skoda is a bit old and not as fast as the fastest cars, but also the price is not that high and it is good car for learning 4WD and gainig experience (the balance between the speed and price is right).
So, on the downhill stage and bit cleaner road, the result is logical
Mikkelsen again faster as Al-Attiyah on second stage of the day.
Ss7 is 100% tarmac so I expected Kopecky to be faster than Nasser.....but he wasnt.
No, on the contrary, he was a lot slower as Nasser and so is Loix.
Driving asphalt on gravel tyres and suspension is quite different to driving with proper suspension and tyres. Nasser is used to that from previous events on Cyprus.Quote:
Originally Posted by VFTS
Nice to see someone give an honest appraisal instead of just whining!Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
I know there are different from real tarmac tyres and setups so Kopecky should have been faster in my opinion. But its the same for him if he ends second or third related to the championship so maybe he didnt push.
Troodos Rally have been nearly almost gravel rally and the same with Cyprus Rally in the past so Nasser have not so much tarmac-experience from Cyprus.
As they just pointed out on the Eurosport UK commentary, the final stage of the season will be live on tv!
I must say the Cyrpus stages are really great for tv.
Nasser no-brained it on SS8. Spectacular to watch. Mikkelsen will have to go all out on the second loop to keep his lead.
I think since 2008 they run asphalt stages in Cyprus ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by VFTS
By the way very crazy driving by Nasser in TV stage!
Yes, and even making two mistakes, with one spin, he is still the fastest man trough the stage, really great driving, but also taking a lot of risks.
Does somebody know if you can score drivers championshippoints being under superrally, like for example Hanninen is for the moment?
And 2008 is not in the past......Nasser has been driving on the island for 8-9 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek