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I can't help but finding this situation quite ironic, considering the treatment some of his former teammates received. It's pretty amusing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Definitely not the last we'll hear of this.
No. I think that he is saying that unfortunately his side of the garage has trouble preparing the set-up for his car. Like they did with Jenson for the better part of the 2009 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Like who? Nobody in the junior series seem very special. And from the rookies even Hulk does not seem extremely quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I am sure there are at least 5 drivers in F1 that are no way near MS' level till I don't see people complaining this much. :\Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Those that are no good and pay for their seats and are driving really bad cars are not judged as harshly as a billionaire driver paid big money to be constantly beaten by his team mate... there's just no justice... who can understand this world? who? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ioan
Yeah that's quite funny. Now Schumacher and his fans know, how was Barrichello feeling once. Or Alonso's experience in 2007 showed, what his former Renault team-mates had been feeling previously. Karma. :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by theugsquirrel
As for the criticism of Schumacher, it is relative and also depends on which team he is driving for. Even Massa's seat is questioned now despite him having been a title contender two years ago. If Schumacher was driving for Virgin, none would call for his sacking.
So to whom he should give it to?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Maybe Scott Speed, the guy who showed so much promise?
Maybe Liuzzi, the guy who has so taken advantage of the 10562 opportunities given to him in F1 and even has beaten his teammate once in every 15 races.
Or maybe to Yuji Ide, the guy who made all other F1 drivers look second rate, before bad luck, not lack of talent, but bad luck ruined his career.
Or maybe the seat should go to my personal favourite, Anthony Davidson, who surely is a world champion in making and who once in a while even managed to beat Takuma Sato?
Being serious Garry (go on, give it a try ;) ) what would be wrong with young Sutil?
With Heidfeld left on the bench, I don't see the justification in having Michael in the seat.
I don't think he was saying he's getting treated differently, its just as F1boat is saying, his car is not getting setup correctly. I think he does deserve a seat better then potential contenders.
Whatever the reasons for MS's comparatively poor performances this year he must be putting all his 2011 hopes on 1) the Pirelli tyres suiting him and 2) Mercedes coming up with a car that suits him. If he steps into the '11 car and has the same feeling he's had this year then there's not much point in going on.
It's very difficult for him. He's going to have to perform well at the start of 2011 if he even wants to hold onto his race seat for a 2012 season! 7 World Championships or not, this if F1 and if you're not up to scratch...Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
I could well see him quitting mid season, which would be a very sad end to the most successful career in F1.
Joining the ranks of Alan Jones and Nigel Mansell.... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
But IMO will be forgotten... not completely, but after many years, won't be a big deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
how would he be doing in this car ?
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...2-million.html
There are more probabilities to explain why Schumi is now being such inferior against his team mate. Perhaps, his tactical mastermind and his driving style played more dominant role than his real talent, so once he drives elsewhere his role is not so dominant, he struggles. Or, he drove superior prolonged dominant of Ferrari that no one was capable of competing with them. Or, He drove at weak seasons, not much drivers of great talent until we found Alonso twice beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Although this year's car does not suit him, as a experienced multititle champions he should be able to fix the problem. He must prove himself better than his teammate first to expect better drives elsewhere. It may take time to chase back his ability after retirement, next year will be more fair to evaluate his performance. The fans are in anxiety to find him back in his victory instinc. However for whatever reason he's a worthy champion.
Some people complained his racing style, instead of proper overtaking he pushed the rivals off to the wall. Alonso is now driving for car better than that gave him twice of title, maybe equal to his drive in 2007, this is perhaps good karma. :)
But like Mansell do we remember his brilliant victory at the 1994 Australian GP? No, we remember his McLaren farce and retiring in Barcelona.
I dunno, I remember Mansell for Spain 1991, duelling with Senna down the straight, for Mexico 1990, overtaking Berger on the outside of Peraltada, for Silverstone 1987, Hungary 1989......Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I already remember the Shoe for Australia 1994, Spa 1998 (I think) and Spain 1997..... As far as my memory of mr Integrity Schumacher, 2010 is a bonus! ;)
Alain Prost has weighed into the debate, saying:
He knows a thing or two, does the Frenchman. If they only had any petrol left in his country...Quote:
For me, it’s just a question of age,” Prost told L’Equipe. “I think the tyres are just an excuse, because Schumacher always adapted to any sort of car. It’s just not possible to return to the top after being away for three years at that age. It’s a matter of physiology.
Source and full story: http://joesaward.wordpress.com/2010/...acher-bashing/
The haters will hate and question him even without the return. And Mark, about Mansell, I have forgotten that episode until I found it at wikipedia. For me he will always be the man who conquered F1 and Indy Car in the consecutive years. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
And I agree with Alain about the age.
Back when IndyCar was still a big deal - almost becoming a rival to F1.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
I wouldn't call it a brilliant victory - it was an excellent pole position but he was being killed in the race by Hill. He was about a minute behind Hill/Schumacher before the halfway point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Yep, winning the opening race even after receiving a stop go, and winning the title in his rookie year. Third in his first Indy 500 IIRC.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Not sure Newman/Haas would remember 1994 so fondly :pQuote:
Originally Posted by SGWilko
Well, Mansell regularly qualified the car near the front in '94, certainly fared better than Super Mario, but the car was OK over a lap, over a race distance it was pants.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Two good races in a row. Maybe the old man is getting his mojo back, or he found his glasses :)
seems to be finding his feet again :)
Before we get too carried away:
Maybe an explaination for MS's sudden turn of speed: Ted Kravitz reports that during the first stoppage Mercedes converted both cars to a full-wet setup, they don't believe that any other team made such a change.
It was great to see the old man get a good result, but there may have been more to it than pure driver ability.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/9122188.stm
Webber made MS look good again... he's a humanitarian
ROTFLMFAO :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by eu
What about the parc-ferme rules after qualifying?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Parc ferme ends at the start of the race. Ross Brawn's not ready for retirement yet! Shame we didn't get to see what Nico could have done with that advantage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
I remember, years ago, "contract time" being used as an explanation for a driver producing improved performances as the season reached its end.Quote:
Originally Posted by pedro17
Of course, I wouldn't suggest that this is the case with MS as he has a rock solid three year deal until the end of 2012.
Just reminded me, that's all :p
As AndyL says the rules end once the race starts. Usually no team would make such radical changes during the race as the time penalty would far far outweigh the potential gain. But when all your rivals have also stopped....Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
He still wouldn't have beaten Rosberg...
The way those Merc's were going those first few laps, Rosberg may have been able to get the win.
Quite pointless point. It seems unlikely, but you can never know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefe Máximo
Precisely, I remember in Shanghai, when Button was following Rosberg for 2nd, and I believe because of an driving error he gave that position to Button, so you never know until its over.Quote:
Originally Posted by F1boat
It is amusing to see that MS haters need to devalue even a 4th place finish. Chill out, guys! Michael is old, it is unlikely that he will cause you much pain in the future.