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18th July 2010, 20:17
bluuford

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mise

17 S2000 cars. Really looking forward to see:
- How Hänninen does against S-WRC drivers to see the speed of IRC
- Garde and Alen against S-WRC drivers and Hänninen
- Juha Salo (gN Evo X) against S2000 drivers
- Flodin (Impreza WRX Sti) vs Salo in a battle of group N
- What's the pace of Jarkko Nikara on his 207 S2000

And of course much more

Well, Garde just finished third in Mad Crock Rally Estonia today. You can see full results here: http://www.autosport.ee/rallyreg/?page=32&race_id=80&
Märtin (Focus WRC03) won that rally, nearly 3 minutes in front of Tänak (Subaru Impreza). Garde was 1.5 minutes behind Tänak and second in GrN. Prokop was little bit further behind. So, from these results you can get first comparisons:-)

Prokop had his fare share of moments for sure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAmoyi1ueZs Prokop starting from 35 sec. It does not look so bad but if you look further in this video you can see how close call it was.

And this jump: http://www.postimees.ee/?g=1789&art=288886#63934 This is very, very, very big jump on nearly full speed and quite many cars that have landed like this have rolled afterwards.
18th July 2010, 20:36
janvanvurpa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

Sure, but be carefull with the grill

Why would a Swede be thinking of grilling strong beer?
It sounds dangerous, won't the cans go KA-BOOOOM?

Maybe best they stick to lätt-öl....
19th July 2010, 06:13
Koppomsbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

How about Amarillo on Wednesday evening at 18.00? Good food and in the middle of everything in the city of Jyväskylä. Everyone?

Have a couple of beers and feel the rally coming.... :D

Would have loved it, but we doesnt arrive until thursday evning and then go straight out into the bushes for some serious camping :D
19th July 2010, 06:14
Koppomsbo

By the way, is there any place we can download POI`s for SS starts and Finishes for our GPS`?
19th July 2010, 07:40
garais22

Is it possible to download detailed maps of each SS?
19th July 2010, 07:44
Hartusvuori

^^ At least I haven't seen any such service provided by the organizers this year. Start and end points are at the spectators guide, but I don't know are they downloadable anywhere. There are no GPS marks for spectator points or parking areas, so you have to go old school for them.
19th July 2010, 09:14
cali

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

^^ At least I haven't seen any such service provided by the organizers this year. Start and end points are at the spectators guide, but I don't know are they downloadable anywhere. There are no GPS marks for spectator points or parking areas, so you have to go old school for them.

Oldschool navigating is actually more precise and more fun. We got totally lost twice during Swedish Rally, using GPS POI's provided by the official rally magazine. Problably our GPS device was not good enough, but we have never been lost when navigating oldschool way.
19th July 2010, 13:13
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koppomsbo

By the way, is there any place we can download POI`s for SS starts and Finishes for our GPS`?

On this site you can have the POI if you first locate the places yourself:

http://kansalaisen.karttapaikka.fi/k...-FI&clear=true
19th July 2010, 16:43
Juha_Koo

A bit over a week to Rally Finland...! :bounce: First team equipment rumoured to have arrived to Finland today. Not a long till testing begins.
19th July 2010, 17:12
N.O.T

this rally is going to be vital...Citroen has the chance to put the last nail on the ford coffin by winning in their all french team the all finnish at ford...

ford on the other hand want to prove that they have some life left in them heading to the final chapters of the citroen dominated season. Winning here of course will not have any effect on both championships but for sure they can brag they came victorious on the best and most demanding rally on the season.
19th July 2010, 17:13
SubaruNorway

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

^^ At least I haven't seen any such service provided by the organizers this year. Start and end points are at the spectators guide, but I don't know are they downloadable anywhere. There are no GPS marks for spectator points or parking areas, so you have to go old school for them.

Maybe in rally guide 2 if anyone had the password...
19th July 2010, 17:25
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Why would a Swede be thinking of grilling strong beer?
It sounds dangerous, won't the cans go KA-BOOOOM?

Maybe best they stick to lätt-öl....

Now after you said that, and after a bit more thinking, maybe its better to stick to pripps, much safer, for everyone. :)
19th July 2010, 19:07
janvanvurpa

Instruktion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

Now after you said that, and after a bit more thinking, maybe its better to stick to pripps, much safer, for everyone. :)

Okej, cause if the Swedish boy is thinking of grilling Finnish stark öl now, then what sort of crazy ideas would he come up with once he pours in a couple of beers?

But Pripps, isn't that a little too harsh?

Maybe you guys could instruct the Swedes on a) how to use grill, b) how to drink beer. I mean it makes sense in the context sine the Finns have been teaching the Swedes how to drive fast for about 3 decades now, they used to do OK, now the need schooling, maybe they've forgotten how to grill and drink beer därborta i grannlandet till Väst.
19th July 2010, 20:35
Koppomsbo

Quote:

Originally Posted by janvanvurpa

Okej, cause if the Swedish boy is thinking of grilling Finnish stark öl now, then what sort of crazy ideas would he come up with once he pours in a couple of beers?

But Pripps, isn't that a little too harsh?

Maybe you guys could instruct the Swedes on a) how to use grill, b) how to drink beer. I mean it makes sense in the context sine the Finns have been teaching the Swedes how to drive fast for about 3 decades now, they used to do OK, now the need schooling, maybe they've forgotten how to grill and drink beer därborta i grannlandet till Väst.

Vi gör så gott we can :D ;)
19th July 2010, 20:35
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

Now after you said that, and after a bit more thinking, maybe its better to stick to pripps, much safer, for everyone. :)

For me Black Koff every evening on the event... :beer:
19th July 2010, 21:11
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

For me Black Koff every evening on the event... :beer:

Good Choice :)
20th July 2010, 05:53
pino

I couldn't have chosen a better event to watch WRC cars for the last time, so I can't wait to get on that plane to Helsinki :D
20th July 2010, 07:46
ProRally

Me too, next week wednesday .....
20th July 2010, 08:21
Koppomsbo

Anyone got any good tips about a cheap accomendation near the airport in Helsinki from Saturday to Sunday?
20th July 2010, 08:54
Hartusvuori

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koppomsbo

Anyone got any good tips about a cheap accomendation near the airport in Helsinki from Saturday to Sunday?

How near exactly? Cheapest hotel rooms I guess come from Omena Hotels, but their hotels in Helsinki are downtown, not near the airport. There are several airport hotels of course, but they don't necessarily meet with the requirement of being cheap.

http://www.omenahotels.com/fi/
20th July 2010, 09:21
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Koppomsbo

Anyone got any good tips about a cheap accomendation near the airport in Helsinki from Saturday to Sunday?

http://www.ava.fi/frontpage_AVA

About 10-15 mins from the airport.
20th July 2010, 10:06
Koppomsbo

thanks :)

will send them some emails
20th July 2010, 10:12
vkangas

Hotels just by airport are also worth checking. They are not always expensive. I remember staying in one for about 70EUR/night. I can't recall the name, but it might have been Bonus Inn, they seem to have good discounts from list prices.
20th July 2010, 12:11
jbmarcus21

Google Earth Map Finland http://planetemarcus.free.fr/googleearthmap.htm
20th July 2010, 12:27
fugu

Quote:

Originally Posted by vkangas

Hotels just by airport are also worth checking. They are not always expensive. I remember staying in one for about 70EUR/night. I can't recall the name, but it might have been Bonus Inn, they seem to have good discounts from list prices.

http://www.helsinki-vantaa.fi/hotels
20th July 2010, 12:40
Daniel

Just sleep in the airport like me and kabouter did in 2005 :p
20th July 2010, 16:39
Juha_Koo

According to my sources the real testing in Finland begins tomorrow... Wrooom!
20th July 2010, 17:36
pantealex

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

According to my sources the real testing in Finland begins tomorrow... Wrooom!

2 blue Ford trucks (MB and Iveco) with little trailers were in Hotelli Jämsä´s parking place today...
20th July 2010, 18:22
Juha_Koo

Quote:

Originally Posted by pantealex

2 blue Ford trucks (MB and Iveco) with little trailers were in Hotelli Jämsä´s parking place today...

A familiar place - a real Ford team favourite I guess. :D I'm just counting hours here in Sotku, the so called "vacation-TJ" is under 24 hours. Then, hmm, something. :s mokin:
20th July 2010, 19:07
fugu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juha_Koo

According to my sources the real testing in Finland begins tomorrow... Wrooom!

Kimi already started today:

http://www.iltalehti.fi/ralli/2010072012068942_ri.shtml
20th July 2010, 19:19
bluuford

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel

Just sleep in the airport like me and kabouter did in 2005 :p

Yes, Vaantaa is very nice and comfortable place to sleep. And the best thing is that it does not cost anything. Only downside is that breakfast is not included in this accommodation :-P
21st July 2010, 00:11
J4MIE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

http://www.ava.fi/frontpage_AVA

About 10-15 mins from the airport.

Kiitos Tomi ;)

Can't wait for next week :bounce:
21st July 2010, 07:38
garais22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmarcus21

Google Earth Map Finland http://planetemarcus.free.fr/googleearthmap.htm

Can somebody explain me, how could I see from this site maps? What I need to do with this .knz file? :(
21st July 2010, 07:50
MartijnS

Download google earth and open it or upload the knz file somewhere + enter the url of the file in the google maps location bar.
21st July 2010, 08:13
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by J4MIE

Kiitos Tomi ;)

Can't wait for next week :bounce:

No problem mate, only about 200m from the busstop to the airport, and if you want to take a tram to center of the city, the same.
21st July 2010, 09:37
Hartusvuori

If there's people coming to see Rally Finland that are also interested in 1000 Lakes in the 1970s, there's a great chance to hear few presentation on the matter by Kari Mäki, two of them in English.

He is true rally enthusiast who's been working on two books on 70's 1000 Lakes. First of the books is scheduled to be released in December 2010, in Finnish only though. He gives a stage-by-stage detailed tales, results and numerous unpublished photos. It've been nice to follow his efforts with the book which have taken him to old stages, he's been talking to people who live by the stages and remember those times in detail (like showing some rocks that took Alen or Mäkinen or Mikkola out some year).

Just near-by Paviljonki (less tham 100m) at Jyväskylän ammattikorkeakoulu (JAMK) Dynamo-rakennus, auditorio, Piippukatu 2 there will be presantations as planned:

Thursday 29.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:45
• 1000 Lakes 1973 and 1974 (in English)

klo 15:15–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1973 ja 1974 (in Finnish)

Friday 30.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:30
• 1000 Lakes 1970 / (in Finnish)

klo 15:00–15:30
• 1000 Lakes 1971 (in Finnish)

Saturday 31.07.2010
klo 15:30–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in English)

klo 16:30 – 17:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in Finnish)
This is not part of the official program. Further details on the book (in Finnish again) can be read from this blog.

If you are an old rally fan and remember stories from those days, I bet, if he has time, rally professor Mäki is all ears.
21st July 2010, 09:44
Sodjag

I am planning trip to Finland this year, but I have problem to find some good maps where are interesting places of spectators marked. I will buy the official spectator´s guide as aoon as I arrive to Finland but I would like to prepare at home. Is here someone who has already bought the spectator´s guide of this year and would be so kind and scan some maps for me, please? Thx
21st July 2010, 10:45
Hartusvuori

^ Forgot to mention about that 70's show that it's of course free of charge.
21st July 2010, 10:48
pino

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hartusvuori

If there's people coming to see Rally Finland that are also interested in 1000 Lakes in the 1970s, there's a great chance to hear few presentation on the matter by Kari Mäki, two of them in English.

He is true rally enthusiast who's been working on two books on 70's 1000 Lakes. First of the books is scheduled to be released in December 2010, in Finnish only though. He gives a stage-by-stage detailed tales, results and numerous unpublished photos. It've been nice to follow his efforts with the book which have taken him to old stages, he's been talking to people who live by the stages and remember those times in detail (like showing some rocks that took Alen or Mäkinen or Mikkola out some year).

Just near-by Paviljonki (less tham 100m) at Jyväskylän ammattikorkeakoulu (JAMK) Dynamo-rakennus, auditorio, Piippukatu 2 there will be presantations as planned:

Thursday 29.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:45
• 1000 Lakes 1973 and 1974 (in English)

klo 15:15–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1973 ja 1974 (in Finnish)

Friday 30.07.2010
klo 14:00–14:30
• 1000 Lakes 1970 / (in Finnish)

klo 15:00–15:30
• 1000 Lakes 1971 (in Finnish)

Saturday 31.07.2010
klo 15:30–16:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in English)

klo 16:30 – 17:00
• 1000 Lakes 1972 (in Finnish)
This is not part of the official program. Further details on the book (in Finnish again) can be read from this blog.

If you are an old rally fan and remember stories from those days, I bet, if he has time, rally professor Mäki is all ears.

Great info thanks :up:
22nd July 2010, 17:32
RS

Anton Alen cancelled his entry: http://www.maxrally.com/news/entry/n..._for_ace_alen/

That's a pity, I was looking forward to seeing how he would do in a Fiesta. Even though he wasn't very impressive in IRC he was at least quite good on fast gravel roads like those on his home event.

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