Lloyd has been bumped - Marco up to 3rd in the final standings after being passed under yellow.
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Lloyd has been bumped - Marco up to 3rd in the final standings after being passed under yellow.
Bugger, what a shame for Alex Lloyd. Just when I thought it was a fantastic day for the British drivers. Hope he gets 4th then, at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by infoxicated
Yeah, it would have been good to have a 1, 2, 3. :)
Top drives from them all, though - loved seeing Conway, Wilson and Dario pretty much leading the pack. I really do like Justin Wilson - such a classy guy and really deserving of a high finish on an oval to help shake off the road course specialist tag.
Lloyd I'm still annoyed with for slamming the door on Wilson at Long Beach, but it was still good to see him running up front.
Updated;
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Broken left leg for Conway. No news yet as to the extent of the injury. If #24 car is up for grabs, temporarily, then Scheckter will probably get the ride as a stand-in.
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Originally Posted by TURN3
That is Indy's problem....It isn't sacred. It is just another race. You can only go so far on tradition.
The economic downturn is a recent event. The Indianapolis 500 downturn has been going on for over a decade.Quote:
Originally Posted by downtowndeco
Your logic is pathetic. Indy's downfall peaked about 3 or 4 years ago and has been coming back since. I don't know the official attendance yet for today but pole day was as full as it had been in years. So with ratings improving over recent years and attendance increasing, how is it a downfall? Isn't it a comeback? Good thing they can count on you not showing up.Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
Yea right!Quote:
Originally Posted by TURN3
Any improvements has been minuscule at best and mostly "spin" in reality.
Indy doesn't release any "official" attendance figures so we will never really know. Fact is there were thousands of empty seats at an event that use to sell out months ahead of time.
An uptick in ratings of 0.5 is nothing.
Lets see what the rating are.
I enjoyed it although I used my PVR to give me the "Coles Notes" version of it. Because of all the carnage in the race there were a lot of restarts and that's where all the action happened. Otherwise, this race was Franchitti's to lose with no long green period dicing. Who said fuel racing was boring? It made the last few laps pretty tense. Curious to know what happened with Conway and RHR. It almost looked as if RHR ran out of fuel and Conway drove over him? I'd also like to hear how Tagliani just melted out of contention. Good to see Dario make amends with his wife for the last Indy 500 win brush off. ;)
I really didn't see much of it and I don't want to get into a(nother) ratings discussion, but Indy's TV ratings last year were the lowest on record. There's been no uptick recently.
From Sports Business Daily:
Maybe it'll do better this year. It would be sad to see it fall any further.Quote:
The 2009 Indianapolis 500 drew a 4.0/11 final rating on ABC last Sunday, down 13% from a 4.6/13 last year, down 7% from a 4.3/12 in '07, and the lowest rating for the Indy 500 since at least 1973.
For the decade (2000-2009), the Indianapolis 500 averaged a 5.0 rating, down 36% from the 7.8 rating the race averaged during the 1990s, and down 55% from the the 11.2 the race averaged in the 1980s.
For the people who got to watch it, I hope it was enjoyable. :up:
RHR said in a post-race interview that he just ran out of fuel, the car stopped, and Conway ran into the back of him. Feel kind of bad for Conway because he was running a good race. And RHR supposedly was on the cusp of some major sponsorship news for the rest of the season, gotta wonder if this has any affect on that.
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
Yes, thanks for that. I was willing to place all that on Conweasel! I thought RHR was one of the guys that pitted like Conway, Wilson, TK, etc. Apparently not...which begs the huge question: Dario, Wheldon, Marco...through Danica. What might have been if only 1 more lap was run? Very interesting 500 this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
I'll add my postscript to the race with the following;
Considering where the sport was a few years ago and where it is in 2010 this race represents a turning point for open wheel.
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Originally Posted by TURN3
I think Dario would have still won it.
Wheldon and Marco were on fumes and may not have made it. I think Marco ran out after the green fell.
Dixon probably would have finished 2nd.
Danica was in big trouble (which she admitted afterward) and wouldn't have likely made it. Wilson was about to pass her and the Penske cars would have gotten her down the frontstretch.
I think the finishing order if it stayed green could have been:
1. Franchitti
2. Dixon
3. Wilson
4. Conway
5. Helio
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Originally Posted by SportscarBruce
A turning point? Why because IZOD paid Jack Nicholson and Marky Mark to come to the race (and both acted like asses, I am told).
Why? The ratings haven't improved. Sponsors aren't coming back. American drivers are becoming endangered species. The bleachers today had way, way too many empty spots.
Indy Car still has a REALLY long way to go.
I have no way of knowing for sure, none of us do, but I agree for the most part. Dario had a big enough lead that he ws basically going to coast home. I thought Wheldon actually ran out crossing the line with 1 to go. Apparaently RHR did and Danica was dropping back into the group that pitted. Only change I have for you is that Conway was ahead of Wilson when the wreck happened. He likely would've stayed in front of Justin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
I think everyone in the top 10 was running very low, and if it wasn't RHR at that moment, someone else would have run out b4 the end and likely caused a caution. I do think Franchitti could have made it however.
I saw a lot of empty seats on TV, but I checked the track's website last night and a lot of sections were sold out.
I think it's just a shame so many empty seats were in turn 3, that's one of the sweet spots where you can see half the track.
I resent that!Quote:
Originally Posted by call_me_andrew
I thought you would take it as a compliment.
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Originally Posted by TURN3
You are right. Reverse Conway with Wilson.
Kanaan may have actually had the best Andretti finish, had it stayed green. Likely about 6th or 7th (if he could have held off Rahal).
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Originally Posted by Scotty G.
Granted not every sponsor is coming back (many are locked into present commitments by exclusive agreements) but sponsors ARE being added. Less percentage of empty seats than at many of the excessively hearlded suckcar series. RHR is American & has the series sponsor on his sideboards. Danica is the most recognized racer in America today. So on and so forth. Then add in this exciting, emotional conclusion to the 2010 Indy 500 and all you come away with is piss and vinager? Is this Robin Miller or Dave Despain I'm addressing here? :rolleyes:
Rats, I just realized how much I missed Milwaukee being the week after Indy...oh well. Sounds like RHR tore ligaments in his thumb during pit road contact. Having surgery tomorrow so we'll see how well that works out for Texas.
Why? Don't you like it when drivers have to lift?Quote:
Originally Posted by anthonyvop
yeah, here's the deal on RHR's day:
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From DR&R's twitter feed:
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We can confirm that Mike was awake and alert after the accident, has a broken leg, and was airlifted to Methodist due to traffic concerns.
After the race was over, it occurred to me that Ganassi was banking on someone running out before the checkers and the race would end under yellow. They knew how far everyone else could run and it was a sure bet. With all of the teams making fuel economy gambles, someone was going to lose. All of the AA cars were in big trouble, but I doubt anyone expected the wreck when RHR ran out.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickFalzone
Fuel economy races are a part of racing, but it was a very weird "race" at the end. The results certainly don't show how people ran all day.
I don't see how you can dismiss Kansas as a bad race, and at the same time think this Indy was a good race. There was barely any passing, certainly not for the lead. Only the first two laps after a restart were mildly exciting and then it was single file racing. I wouldn't label this anywhere near my favourite Indy500's, not even as one of my favourite races of the season.
There wasn't many, but there was one or two, too bad the broadcaster missed them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
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Originally Posted by Dr. Krogshöj
was Dario's pass on lap 1 under the yellow?
How could you tell? According to race control, no. We have no reason to doubt it, I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by SarahFan
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Originally Posted by Dr. Krogshöj
well in that case I am no longer going to doubt PT passed helio in 02'.....I mean race control had him listed as p1 on laps 199 and 200
why no love for Alex Lloyd, while everyone goes gaga for Danica for barely passing one car one the race track.
wheres the tabloids for Alex being in a small team and still took 3rd.
glad Conway was ok from that serious wreck, but I would've like to see the race end under green.
again no luck for TK, you really have to feel for the guy, going from 32nd to 2nd and the fuel milage killed him.
thanks for all the commercials ABC, I really thought there was a race yesterday, and Indy was empty this year.
I believe that you cant blame the tracks for not getting people to attend, the tickets arent the money killer, its the freaking hotels that have robbed people in not wanting to go anymore to races. until Hotels stop jacking up rates for race weekends, there will continue to be poor crowds at all racing events
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that alot of people were not in their seats due to the sun. Reports that 1500+ people were attended to at the Infield Medical Center for heat exhaustion and other heat related illnesses are coming through.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
Also, on the front stretch, the stands were packed in the shade, but anywhere there was sunshine on the front stretch, it was empty.
I believe it was the highest race day temperatures since 1993 or something along those lines?
I was looking at the sattelite cam from Race control. These large stretches of empty seats were empty from before the start way until the finish. 240k would be a reasonable guess if you add the infield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chamoo
The tv-ratings will be all important though, and the overnights appear to be down again ;(
Great race from my opinion. Lot of nice and clean fights and passes - lucky no big accidents til end.
Sadly the attendance was really not what it should have been.
I'm trying to remember what lap Conway pitted for fuel after he was leading? Given everyone else was tippy toeing around when the yellow came out, he could've been on for a great finish. I know he has a bit of a reputation as a crasher, but now we've heard RHR's side of things, I don't think we can blame him for this one. Not much you can do when the car in front coughs and dies without warning, and not as though he drove over him after the finish, eh Dario? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by infoxicated
Echo the sentiment about Wilson - he's a class act. A very British British driver, if you know what I mean.
This topic has come up before, so I checked the lap charts that show positions at start finish. I probably missed a few, but Danica made about 7 passes and was passed about the same number of times. Most of these were back and forth with the same people. She and the 19 traded positions a number of times. Both ran near the back of the pack until the fuel economy run at the end elevated them to the top 10. I can't see how either could be called out for great races. They just got good fuel economy and didn't make mistakes.Quote:
Originally Posted by harvick#1
I am no fan of Danica, but she did get it right in the post race. Her crew got her more positions than she did. Depending on how you do the math, her crew got her about 8 spots