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“I know how good the chassis is,” said Hirvonen. “It was a great car in Monte Carlo.”
Hirvonen also tested the early Fiesta which was fitted with a de-tuned Focus RS WRC engine, but this is the first time he and Latvala have driven the 1.6-litre-engined car.
IT hurts 2c young promising talents with enough budget looking for a drive bt cant be given a chance jst coz someone with a bigger budget has to 2 cars to waste,its a real shame,what is mathew doing at stortberg are they really happy with his perfomance or jst bcs daddy is the team boss :confused:
A nice car spoiled by an ugly kebab livery. :arrows:
It's not really any different a situation that Alex Forio getting the Jolly Club ride years ago...alebit he was marginally better driver than Wilson. There were plenty of more 'deserving' people of a semi-works Delta but they didn't get it, Alex did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
I think 2011 will be Wilson's last at Stobart as someone will come along with more cash to take the seat.
you just brought the english language to a whole new level.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Red bull
are you serious son ?
As of right now and since a while already Malcolm knows that his kid is not going anywhere as a driver in rallysport. He is in denial and there is a number of factors pushing him to continue to suppot his son.Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
It is basic psychology, and something that people need to understand is that the REAL support comes from the kid's mother. She is fully supporting this endeavour, even more than dad. As long as mom backs the kid, dad will never attempt to "redirect" his son into a career which will better suit him and ESPECIALLY cost less money!!! We all know that Wilson is very tight with money. MONEY MONEY MONEY runs his mind. Whatever the consequences.
The worst is that the kid has no idea he is just a tool, being used by his parents so that maybe he can achieve as a driver what his dad failed to do before him.
it doesn't matter if his dad even loses money to run his son's car. he will do it anyway not to upset the wife, or out of sheer pride.
If he backs out now it will be like admitting that all the talk and praises about his son for the past 5 years was just bull****.
Had that kid been anyone else he would have gotten the BOOT a long time ago unless he can come up like everyone else with the 150 to 200k Euros per rally, period.
I predict that we will continue to see the kid driving in WRC for the years to come indefinitely until he matures and realises he is living a fantasy and decides to break the umbilical cord that connects him to mommy and daddy. Then he will be free to take his life in his OWN hands and do something for himself.
just my 2 cents... :vader:
I see your point but Malcolm was a very decent driver...far more so than Matthew. Not a world beater but fast.
looks a lot faster in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSJ4ofHtfcg
Look what Mikko is doing at about 2':28" :eek: :eek: :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by FVS
τσοντα :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JTGANG
Oooooh yea :DQuote:
Originally Posted by JTGANG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogdk1pgGXOUQuote:
Originally Posted by FVS
the pace is not there yet i think compared to the ds3....
of course the difference in how a car looks and how the times go may vary....
How much do M-Sport pay you for this? Because however much they're paying you, perhaps they should spend it on making a decent rallycar rather than being 2nd best to Citroen. They might win something next time :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Agreed,Quote:
Originally Posted by I am evil Homer
remember in the beginning of the kid's driving when the wilson clan was declaring he would do rally with the goal to become champion ? First in 3 years, then 5... what next ? ten years maybe ?
The secret wish of malcolm is for the kid to win, or at least it was. Then reality kicked in probably already 2 or 3 years ago. Since then it is just DENIAL.
This is how it goes in their heads :
The kid starts a rally all pumped up, thinking now it will go, then after the first stage reality kicks in. He then struggles to keep up all the way until the last stage, when nobody takes risk anymore, then suddenly the kid, who doesn't need to lift in that last stage suddenly finds himself only 1 sec/km slower than Loeb instead of the usual 2 or 3 sec/km.
he then goes home and thinks that for sure now he found the pace and all will be better. etc.. etc.. etc.. etc..
It sounds really stupid but that is the only way for him to find motivation to continue.
Still remember GB rally 1993 on ScreenSport when comentator said: And Malcolm Wilson wins the stage in his Micheline Pilot Ford Escort from his own workshop..
Everyone calls Matt Wilson useless but he is a top class driver compared too Al Qassimi, he is truely totally useless!!!!!
Quite right. Still doesn't make Matty any less craptastic!Quote:
Originally Posted by ste898
Just wish Malcolm would focus on getting a decent car out there rather than backing his son with millions and paying shills to post on forums.
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Originally Posted by ste898
Would M-Sport still be in WRC without Abu Dhabi money? Let the sheikh have fun, it's win-win situation for everybody.
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Originally Posted by Daniel
Yeah, Peugeot-Citroen's fans seems to be worried that it can beat frankly Citroens next year. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Am really sorry sir but i come from some part of the dark continent(afrika)so english is my third language,once again am sorry if i offended you,thanks in advance. :oQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
:rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Only twice during the PSA era (2000 onwards) have Ford won the manufacturers title and no drivers titles. So out of a possible 22 titles since 2000 PSA have taken 18.
The track record says that Bobshill is going to be wrong :laugh:
The new WRC cars and the fact that the active center diff will be out will change things for next season.
Basically the cars are going to be more difficult to drive without that active center diff. The tendency will be quite strong with understeer, and drivers will need to use aggressive driving style to turn in corners. I think this may be good for nordic drivers who are very familiar with this way of driving.
Just going around a tight hairpin with handbrake is going to be interesting since there is no more active center diff to disconnect rear drive when handbrake is pulled, allowing car to turn on a dime... not anymore in future!
By looking at latest Hirvonen test with FIESTA in portugal one can see the understeer going in and oversteer going out of corner. The slippery muddy conditions are quite nice indeed because it emphasizes the negative or positive sides of the general car balance. In this test you can see in medium speed long corners that he has to overcome some understeer going in, resulting in too much oversteer going out of corner once the car's lateral momentum is in action. Which means he won't have optimal corner exit speed and car will not be straight enough for maximum traction on acceleration. If this car balance is not right, Hirvonen will be forced to throw the car very agressively into corners; which wont be so much trouble in fast stages, but in twisty areas he will be in trouble and lose tenths in every corner. If he loses a tenth of second out each of 10 corners on one kilometer you can do th math !! Things will depend a lot on grip level and twistiness of stages, but I suspect Citroen is already working on finding specific car setups for all different types of roads, so they can have a specific setup with best compromise for each rally, this thanks to their philosophy of starting to develop the car very early with their top drivers. As Hirvonen has only now tested the car for first time, Ford have a lot of work ahead of them in the next 3 months before first rally. Too bad it is now soon winter and finding right conditions will be difficult for the first gravel rallies of next season. I guess they should have thought of that earlier.
This also means that tires will wear quite a lot more next year. Some long stages on hard gravel in hot conditions will be very very difficult on tires. The team who can find best car balance will be able to use tires full potential better.
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16; Subaru have won two drivers titlesQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
There have been 11 seasons so 22 titles -4 = 18
Kaffi, you are wrong. There still be some kind of disconnection of the rear wheeels when handbrake is pulled, but - as you mentioned - with no active centre diff. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
Ok thanks for that. Does someone know how this happens ? As far as I understand they are not allowed any "active" system in the car, so this device can only be mechanically activated from handbrake mechanism when the driver pulls it, which implicates some kind of clutch plate system ?
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And I bet that will be Citroen!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
Yup. Citroën engineer has said that:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
http://autosport.aeiou.pt/gen.pl?p=s....stories/90601
by google translator:
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The Citroen WRC DS3 viewed Xavier Mestelan-Pinon
The Citroen WRC DS3 born to be, first, a World Rally Car, and never a S2000 would later be converted into a WRC. According to Xavier Mestelan-Pinon, the project director, "the greatest challenge was the construction of the engine as we made an aluminum propeller to direct injection, whose crankshaft, for example, took six months to be drawn. With just a 1.6 liters to explore, we have less power and torque than half had at C4 and a range of minor use. The turbo boost pressure is limited to 2.6 bar and using the direct injection system has to be different from that used in cars series, due to the smaller flow of gas. " Regarding the coke, the DS3 is smaller, which means that "there is less space to mount the bow of security and increase the height of the center of gravity. But the car was extended up to 1820 mm regulations and stood weight below 1200 pounds regulations and then make a better weight distribution. In the broadcast we have a box six Sadev sequential relationships without paddles on the steering wheel. The delivery of torque to the axles, although smaller, is more violent, by we have had the axles of the C4 WRC, but we do not use central differential, which forced him to create a system that turns off the transmitter back when the handbrake is activated. Finally, we use the same suspension geometry of the C4, Citroen Racing to shocks with four types of pitches, "said the Frenchman.
One thing that struck my eye is that the heavy oversteer and lots of weight movement to the rear wheels ,charasteristic to the Focus, seems to be a lot less on the Fiesta compared to the current Focus especially in the corner exits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
Also body roll seems to be less than on the DS3 which appears to run a very soft setting in the dampers.
All of these comparisons are of course useless at this stage but anyway interesting to look at different approaches to get speed.
But as usual as soon as rally Sweden is on its way will be at least a little wiser waht comes to who has done the best job.
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Originally Posted by Kaffi
It's same as in modern S2000 cars. Peugeot, Škoda, Ford, Proton and newer Abarths don't have center diff also. There is just a clutch in rear differential case which disconnects rear axle when You use handbrake. In my opinion the prediction of driving style is quite simple. New WRC cars will behave basically same as S2000 cars, just with stronger engine. I personally like S2000 appearance very much.
I think he's 15Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
thanks for that guys. Wasn't aware of it.
I noticed that also. The DS3 seems to sit down a hell of a lot more than the FIESTA. I wonder if the DS3 has more suspension travel than FIESTA ?Quote:
Originally Posted by FVS
That's right, MJW, the return of the FRENCH CONNECTIONQuote:
Originally Posted by MJW
michelin-citroen-sebastien(s)
:D
I think that it's impossible. DS3 have almost vertical dampers while Fiesta has them angled a lot which allows them to be much longer with same ground clearance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
I noticed in Citroën press release that they use 4-way adjustable dampers on DS3 WRC. Does anyone know if they use them also on C4? I guess it's something similar to Reiger fast rebound.
As far as I know there is high and low speed bump adjustment and same on rebound, a low speed and the fast rebound.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaffi
Everything comes to an end eventually (fortunately), see PSA's IRC era.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
I very much doubt that MSport will be the ones to end PSA's reign of terriffic performances. Have you told your boss to spend his money more wisely?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat