Without checking, I'd guess that's down to the lack of flash support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
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Without checking, I'd guess that's down to the lack of flash support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Why not take two minutes and check it out? I know nothing about flash support, but if the candidates are missing, then you simply cannot solve puzzles with Block and Block interaction, let alone the more difficult puzzles with X-Y wings and so on. If I wanted to have one of these IPADS, then I'd like to know that I am not paying for an inferior operating system, not to mention something that can't even be used to make a phone call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Since I don't have an iPad nor wish to have an iPad, that would be difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
The lack of flash support on iPad is very well known. You'd struggle to find anyone who didn't know that, except perhaps my Mum...Quote:
I know nothing about flash support, but if the candidates are missing, then you simply cannot solve puzzles with Block and Block interaction, let alone the more difficult puzzles with X-Y wings and so on. If I wanted to have one of these IPADS, then I'd like to know that I am not paying for an inferior operating system, not to mention something that can't even be used to make a phone call.
...........or me. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I don't even know what a flash support is.
Just don't tell Daniel what I just said, OK?
It's alright VB, I've taken a leaf out of you book and I just don't listen to people anymore.
Maybe it's the app you were using? I really don't know. I don't even know what Sudoku is. But I did find this on YouTube. Knowing that the iPad will play some pretty sophisticated games, I doubt it would have trouble with Sudoku... unless it's more complicated than I realize.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Does this help?
[youtube]hx-8mz3S1qg[/youtube]
Not Really helpful at all. Sudoku is a puzzle that is solved through logic and not by guessing.
Now, if you click on the following link: http://www.sudokulearningcenter.com/
and then select a difficult grading under the play option, a Sodoku puzzle shows up on your screen. The little numbers on the empty squares are called "candidates", and you need these little numbers to solve the puzzle using logic.
Now, if you are using an apple computer, the candidates will appear in the puzzle, same for XP; but if you are using and Ipad, the little candidates do not appear and so you cannot pay Sudoku using an Ipad except by guessing, which is impossible for difficult games.
We tried this on my son-in-law's Ipad and when the candidates didn't show, he explained it as something to do with the operating system, and he is a Consultant in the IT industry. So this leads me to think that the operating system of the Ipad is somewhat lacking.
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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Lacking? Yes and no? It is what it is after all, i.e. basically an enlarged iPhone. e.g. The iPhone 4 has almost the same specification and OS as the iPad, just a smaller screen. You can't expect it to do everything that a desktop PC can do. In terms of your issue, it's almost certainly down to flash.
An enlarged iphone that you cannot use as a phone? Common!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
The point I am making here is that I can buy a small laptop for under $500 at the Post Office. So where is the value?
Mark, as I said before, I have no idea what a flash is.
As pointed out in the majority of this thread :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_FlashQuote:
Mark, as I said before, I have no idea what a flash is.
:facepalm: I have just spent the best part of half an hour updating Adobe on the laptop. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Some people will definitely continue buying those $500 laptops while others (about 3 million so far) will buy iPads and various other tablet devices. I don't understand why people buy e-readers. I like to read... BOOKS (paper books!). It's all about choices. People just have more of them now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
As for why people do what they do when it comes to technology, you're probably asking the wrong guy. I'm a guy who is rolling with an 8 year old (personal) cellphone, don't know what Sudoku is, don't have a Twitter/FaceBook/MySpace account and will get mad if you send me a text message instead of calling me. But since I think buying jewelry might open up a can of worms (for me), I very well might buy "Jag Girl" an iPad for Christmas. She, along with her sister and brother-in-law, is a devoted Apple fan. I like the business model and the way they manage the brand, but I'm just a (happy as hell) shareholder. 3 million and counting! Go Steve, go!!! :bounce:
Well I've got my iPhone! First thoughts, confusing! I've been using Nokias for over 10 years now and got used to a way of doing things!
FFS Emails!!
How long have I been battling with various Nokia symbian devices which just can't get email to work properly at all.
I get my iPhone, put in a few details, and there y'are, it's working!
Bravo Mark!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Which iPhone did you puchase?
:)
When I'm sat at work and have outlook open I always find that I get my emails on my iPhone before I get them on my laptop. :sQuote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I get emails on my Nokia no problem, have done for a while.
What really irks me about the i-experience is summed up by Valve's dilemma. A perfectly good website fails to render properly, yet you can go via iTunes and buy an app which replicates its function. Walled gardens go against everything the internet was designed for.
Want to check in for your flight online? Our website crashes but there's an app for that.
Want to browse The Guardian? Our website renders horribly but there's an app for that.
No - just sort out your websites so that everybody can use them, whether on a top of the range PC or a £50 pay as you go phone. :s
PS Mark, any problems with reception on the iPhone you're Beta testing? :p
There have been a lot of issues reported with the antenna design of the latest model.
Errr Dave, that's not a fault, it's a feature.
I agree with you regarding the closed walls argument. My e71 isn't perfect by a longshot, but it more than does the job at a lower price and in fact is better in some ways than the iPhone especially with regards to its qwerty keyboard.
I also share your bemusement at people's email problems. I've never had problems with getting emails on my N95 and E71. GridGirl, you're probably getting the emails first on your phone because the email server is pushing the emails out to your phone as and when it needs to whereas your laptop is probably set to pull them every x amount of minutes. Pretty poor setup tbh and sadly one which we have here too.
mark, did you ever try email.nokiacom to set your emails up? As Dave and myself have said, it's doable if you know how.
Back at a PC and back on my high horse :p
I think this thread showcases exactly why people buy into the iPhone/iPad. Not because other devices are poor but because people have to deal with systems/devices which are poorly setup or badly specced. If I hadn't worked in places where the person next to me could send me an email and it was in my outlook inbox half a second later I'd find the idea that an email could get to my phone quicker than to my PC amazing.
Well can just comment on my own experience that things including email and wifi did not work properly
On my nokia but work first time on my iPhone and I know you're like. Oh you didn't set it up properly but I was configuring it for a year and it still did not work or in the case of the wifi dropped out every couple of minutes. Whereas with my iPhone it all works!
Yes I have seen the signal issues with my phone but I have yet to have it cause me any problems but we'll see. Epic fail on behalf of Apple for that one!
I'm still waiting for itable, just so I can read the news while having breakfast.
Ray
That device in CSI Miami is really impressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
Yep that's the one I want, when does Apple bring it out? or is it ipad version 23.46?Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Ray
I'm hoping they put the iPhone OS in a 3D TV once they perfect 3D HD and get more programming in that format. HDTV (by itself) doesn't impress me all that much. But 3D HDTV + solid iOS making it fully & truly internet capable in one unit = I spend some money. :bounce:Quote:
Originally Posted by raybak
You want someone to telephone or e-mail you on your TV while you are watching a program?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Not really. Though that's already possible. My aunt has some kind of internet/phone/TV service that lets her know (on her TV) that she's got an incoming call. That feature can be turned off though. I think it's Verizon Fios, but I'm really not sure. I'm talking more about a fully internet capable 3D HDTV, backed by an easy to use, but solid OS. It's already possible to rig up a system that'll pretty much mimic what I'm thinking about. But 3D is still in its infancy right now. HDTV doesn't really "wow!" me at all. But I looked at a 3D set at Best Buy a few weeks back, and short of the dorky glasses... I'm looking forward to that tech being fully exploited. Can you imagine sitting there and feeling like Button, Hamilton and Schumacher are about to run you over?! :s mokin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Valve Bounce
Well I did say I think your phone was faulty considering the issues you had with the GPS. You should have sent it in for repair rather than bearing with something which was faulty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Another one bites the dust? My buddy's wife just emailed me that the HP Slate is rumored to be dead on arrival. So of the major makers, does that just leave Dell to compete with the iPad later this year with a tablet?
I'm surprised (and rather sorry) to hear about HP possibly killing the Slate. I thought they might decide to use the newly acquired Palm OS in the device (instead of Windows 7), which might have made for a very interesting tablet.
Finally some good news for "my kind":
Tablets Still Can't Beat the Book
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It will take you longer to read a book on an iPad or Kindle compared to the printed page, according to a recent study. Dr. Jakob Nielsen of the Nielsen Norman Group--a product development consultancy that is not associated with Nielsen, the metrics company--compared the reading times of 24 users on the Kindle 2, an iPad using the iBooks application, a PC monitor and good old fashioned paper. The study found that reading on an electronic tablet was up to 10.7 percent slower than reading a printed book. Despite the slower reading times, Nielsen found that users preferred reading books on a tablet device compared to the paper book. The PC monitor, meanwhile, was universally hated as a reading platform among all test subjects.
Overall, it took each user an average of 17 minutes and 20 seconds to read a story regardless of the platform and comprehension levels were virtually identical on all four reading formats.
However, Nielsen says the printed book was the clear winner in terms of speed. ( :) ) Users were reading 6.2 percent slower on an iPad compared to paper, and 10.7 percent slower on the Kindle 2. Nielsen did not provide any statistics on the reading time for the PC monitor.
Just ask J4MIE what he thinks of the Dell!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
I read that and nearly had a coronary :D An unfortunate place in the sentence for the end of the line to fall :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior
Mark and his e-mails is why the iPhone is popular, it may not be the best but it's the easiest and that's why the masses like it. I spent hours pricking about with my blackberry to get it working (gave up in the end). Eventually the thing broke anyway and, although I miss the browsing bit, I'm quite happy using my Nokia 3110c again. I'd still quite like an iPhone too but I don't text/call enough to warrant a monthly contract and the PAYG phones are silly prices.
What features does the iPhone have that the iPod touch lacks? Is it just the phoning thing or does 3G come into it? (I've heard the letters GPRS and EDGE also mentioned but that means nothing to me)
The iPhone can access the mobile network so can make calls and access the Internet via the mobile network. The touch can only use wifi.
And not everyone has a) your apparent technical proficiency and/or b) the time to be arsed to set things up properly. Apple hardware just works. There is no need to mess about with settings as the closed hardware prevents any non-standard stuff messing up software.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel
Say what you like about Apple's control of everything, but it serves a purpose. Their machines are reasonably idiot-proof, which is no doubt a small part of their appeal.
Hi J4MIE, what do you think of the DELL?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
By the way, there is an article in today's The Australian about Jailbreaking the Ipad, and the instructions are on youtube. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news...-1225889144280
ENJOY :D
Well perhaps I just like a machine that has an endless list of capabilities. If my contract gets extended I'm going to build myself a new PC which will mop the floor with any Mac you can put against it aside from perhaps the top of the range dual processor one..... all for about a third to half the price of what Apple will charge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrewmcm
Essentially what you're saying is that you can be an idiot and own an Apple product, what I say is "Don't be an idiot, buy an xyz product, save yourself hundreds of pounds and just rtfm or have a look on the internet, the solutions are all there"
But those idiots who will happily spend money on buying an off the shelf product most probably have no idea and no desire to build their own pc. I quite happily include myself as an idiot who could learn off the net how to do it but doesn't want to as there are more interesting things that I would rather be doing. My 10 year old pc and 4 year old laptop probably are rubbish and are considered pre-historic but they work ok for my requirements. When they break I could get Ibby to fix them for me but more than likely I wont bother.
I suppose I'm a slave to consumerism because I have other hobbies to fill my time and a nice disposable income but I'm happy to be an idiot. :D :p :D
That's not what I said at all.
I'm saying that if you can't get one of the competitors products to work, a simple search on the net will yield the results and save you hundreds of pounds.
I have hobbies to fill my time with, I just don't see the point in wasting hundreds of pounds giving money to some freaking egotistical maniac in a turtleneck rather than just doing it myself.
You seem to have this idea that I can't afford anything or that I'm too cheap to spend money on something decent. That's not the case at all. If buying an Apple product was actually going to save me tens of hours I'd get it but that's simply not the way it is.