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Originally Posted by JFL
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NO.. the driver driving the 307 was the man to beat in finlandQuote:
Originally Posted by pucky54
he didn;t say that atko would do all that you say...he just said the truth ...that Atko sent peter to school last year...Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
Petter is finnished...he should really throw in the towel.... Atko is a much safer bet for any team.. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I'm not bothering to defend that.. If you did'nt see why that happened..
Easy explained..
They drove with different parts at some rallies to try them out.. Not all of them worked out.
One of them wanted to win rallies...
You defend Petter cause he is Norwegian :) That`s ok - the same with me. I`ll defend Novikov anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
Maybe a little, but I think he's taken a lot of crap for be honest! If he keeps his mouth shut it's wrong, if he says something, its wrong.. All I know that in a right car, he's up there.. He has beaten them all... McRae, Mäkinen, Märtin, Sainz, Loeb, Burns, Grönholm, Hirvonen etc.... and some of them in the same car as himself.. He's been struggling for some years...
And now he show's who he is.. with a car that can't win, he is still up there in the not so fast stages..
I think that the Xsara has more in it then what his car has got... But that is how it is.. If he ever get's a top spec car again, I'm sure he will win... until then... Enjoy Loeb ... as long as it lasts..
It was Solbergs choice to go for the money at subaru than compromise and get a better car...now he pays that price...
He did'nt set his own paycheck... And if he was so bad, why did they even bother to pay him that much? G'nite.. ;)
-Choosing the car wise- Petter is not on his own. FX really knows the potential of these 2 cars and whatever they choose it will be the best they can get.
And you do not have to be a norwegian to realize the fact that Petter is doing great with an ancient car in private hands.
define great...... the car he uses cannot give a clear picture of what his capabilities are if he gets in a proper one....anyone with his experience talent and his skills would do the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cloverleaf
Well, the subaru was a great car for a couple years after he got it- it wasn't until 05 that it started going downhill IMO and by 06 it was uncompetitive due to constant mechanical failures.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Now I'm not saying that Atko is a bad driver, as I think he's pretty good; but to say he's faster than Petter is silly. He scored some solid results early in the season, when he was driving a (slightly) more robust Subaru than Petter.
This season Petter's been showing the kind of driving that beat Sebastien and Marcus back in 03/04. Taking note of the individual stage times reveals that he's been losing lots of time on the fast open stages but in the twisty slow stages he sets times competitive with the factory drivers (ie, most of Cyprus, where he soundly beat Dani and got a couple stage wins)
I love every post in here, N.O.T!
When is Petter's final decision regarding the car he'll use in Finland ??? :confused:
I agree with a lot of point made in this thread, but most of all I agree with the above.Quote:
Originally Posted by serial jeff
The Xxara just isnt as fast as the C4/Focus on the faster stage sections.
You can tell by the way Petter looks, speaks and generally acts around the service park that he is happy and content and most of all, he isn't frustrated with his own ability.
At the end of the day, hes driving as fast as he can with the machinery he has been given. Its just unfortunate for him, his sponsors and most of all his fans that he cant get one of the fastest cars and push that little bit harder.
Its also true that Petter is getting older and as such his reactions arn't as sharp as they once were, but I dont think that he is totally 'over it'. Look at guys like Sainz, Makkinen, Stig and even Gronholm. They all competed when they were approaching 40 (or more) and were still competitive.
Top speed is not the number to look at it in rallying. For example i can always say that Mikkelsen in a Skoda was faster through the corner before the straight, hence the better top speed. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
It is interesting if You have something to compare with (I mean previous meassures with same car) ;)
I know, my answer was meant more to JFL, but somehow only your quote was in my reply :)Quote:
Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze
Its also true that Petter is getting older and as such his reactions arn't as sharp as they once were, but I dont think that he is totally 'over it'. Look at guys like Sainz, Makkinen, Stig and even Gronholm. They all competed when they were approaching 40 (or more) and were still competitive.[/quote]
I don´t want to end this discussion about Petter and his abilities, but a summary would be on it´s place:
petter is still a competitive driver who, with the right car could match anyone in the WRC. His age is not a problem until maybe 5-7 years from now (I even think he´s in the very best age right now).
Petter needs a car that´s competitve and that requires a Ford or a C4. Until then he will remain on 4th or podium if a couple of C4 or Fords will retire.
Every discussion if he´s to old has a an old car etz, everyone knows pretty much all of the facts around that. :s mokin:
See you in NORF and hope Petter will make a good race. That´s good for the sport!
Tommi Makinen: "Car was good but race was bad" is a cool song I´ve heard many times on Keski Suomi when visiting NORF. Does anybody know the name of the guy who imitate Tommi and laughing, talking english like him...? :p
From where is coming this talk that Petter is doing amazing things with the Xsara? Yes Xsara is an ancient car but that very same car beated new type of Focus during the year 2006. In Sweden Andersson was faster than Petter with the Skoda and in Poland Mikkselsen was about as fast. Are Mikkelsen and Andersson really top world level drivers or is Skoda faster than the Xsara of Petter?
In my view there is something wrong with Petter + Xsara combination. That combination should be way faster than some young drivers + Skoda. I have my doubts that Citroen is not still bringing him full 2006 package. If 307 is remarkably better in acceleration it's a sign of downgarded engine with the Xsara.
Cannot access to the facebook to see whale tests pictures.... Could someone paste a picture here ? Thanks in advance
Maybe the Skoda is better than you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finni
I was there for the Petter's test :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2009/07/...r-teste-la-307
So what does the article say? Can´t understand french so good. :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
http://66.196.80.202/babelfish/trans...7&.intl=frQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Petter tells norwegian media today that he will not start with the 307 in Finland. He has another plan.....
Petter is going to stick with his Xsara for Finland, and just try to get as much power out of it as they can. Alas.
Not so sure about that. He told NRK that he had some other plans for Rally Finland, but was awaiting more information before he would decide anything.
I'm just relaying what was written on his website...
http://www.pettersolberg.com/html/?lang_pref=en
Video of the 307 test by ExtremRallye :
http://wrc.is.free.fr/posts/2009/07/...-307-en-images
Since there has been no comments on Petters decision chosing the Xsara for NORF I will do some...
First you can see how dedicated both Petter and Phil are. Therefore I´m sure they´ve made the right decision. I think it´s kind of hasardous to chose the 307 so short time before maybe the most important event NORF.
In the Xsara Petter is confident and I guess he´d some talks with Henning as well finding out what´s right or what´s wrong.
If only the french people would help him getting the absolute best parts to the engine this is going to be the second best alternative for Petter. The best would of course be a C4 (or a Focus).
I´m looking forward to see Petter in Finland, and wishing him the very best out of the situation he is in.
Ya and I'm not too surprised about the decision to keep the xsara. After all the time and money they've put into this car, it'd be hard to find a better one on such short notice.
Video from the test!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5cUi...layer_embedded
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Originally Posted by JFL
Isnt this the same video as traxx gave us some hours ago?
looks that way ;) blame the beer.. ;)
From a spectators' point of view the Whale is certainly great fun to watch but looks a lot less smooth than the Xsara.Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
Hmmm,Citroen maybe want to help Sebastien's title hunt...Look here:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/76739
What excuse will he use then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Psycho!
Maybe that he's not rich enough to invent a machine that can punch a man in the face over the internet? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bazza2541
I think I read a few weeks ago that Citroen has been offering Petter a drive in a C4 for a while now, except theyre demanding an outrageous sum for it- far more than the citroen junior drivers are paying. Sounds like that situation hasn't really changed, theyre just demanding a little less.
Very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by JFL
Can't see it working for him though.
Maybe he could claim that he can't drive it to its full potential because it'd be too expensive to fix?