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Michael Nandan repeats here that Mikkelsen is not joining the Hyundai team and they will not add a fourth car.
'Michel Nandan: „Andreas wird in keins der drei aktuellen Werksautos steigen, noch werden wir ein viertes Auto für ihn einsetzen, oder planen mit einem anderen Fahrer. Der Aufwand steht in keinem Verhältnis zum Ertrag. Zudem ist das Team mit all seinen Projekten ausgelastet.“'Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Michel Nandan: "Andreas is not going to drive one of the three ['17] cars, neither will we provide a fourth car for him nor any other driver. The [return of investment] would not be enough. Moreover, the team is working to capacity with all of its projects."
That sounds like a clear no at least for this season.
Weird, what was the point of the test drive then?
I cant imagine how he could un-convince them during one day in a completely unknown car. Drive backwards in 1st only?
If its not that then why would they let him drive it. Sure they get some feedback for development, but how much value is it really. Not like the Polo 2017 fully developed and proved fast car to compare with.
And if he signs someone else you risk some knowledge transfer.
I would assume Latvala's and Ogier's know-how from VW helped them make their cars faster, so maybe Hyundai tried to get some of that know-how from Mikkelsen? And at the same time the test was useful for Mikkelsen to get more experience from 2017 cars and to keep his name on the headlines. Win-win?
I was thinking the same thing. And/or maybe to gain sympathies with Mikkelsen for future negotiations.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Do Nandan and Penasse talk to each other? They seem to come out with conflicting quotes most weeks.
Transfer know-how just after one testing session? Not sure if that's possible, but to me looks unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Same goes for Mikkelsen getting experience with WRC17 cars.
My guess Hyundai were hoping to get him for cheap, but Mikkelsen is not willing to make any discounts. He probably wouldn't hesitate two months ago, but now it is different.
First explanation that I see as possible. After one test session the development feedback from Mikkelsen has to be extremely limited, so it would make sense. Also fits with "return of investment" quote.
Tbh it's not like Hyundai really needs him to charge for both titles this season. No chance for him in driver champs with the point deficit and they already have the most balanced team. So they decided to wait a bit more, possibly hoping that nobody else signs him long-term in the next few months anyway. That is for sure true for Ford, possibly also for Toyota since they want to see after Portugal +1 maybe one rally more how Lappi does. Citroen I honestly have no idea. The whole management of that team seems less that brilliant. (stay out most of 1 year to develop the car and "forget" to develop it for Monte and Sweden, complain about not enough available drivers then not sign any of the 3 VW drivers).
Just all part of the game. I wouldn't believe any of eithers recent remarksQuote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Exactly. They are negotiating so Mikkelsen will say he is talking with everyone, and Nandan that they don't need Mikkelsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by er88
I don't believe for a second that they make Mikkelsen test the car just to have a feedback.
In november Ogier asked to test other cars and they refused.
If Mikkelsen is entered for Portugal in a Fabia R5 - with dispensation can this entry later change to a Hyundai WRC?
Yes, you can change both car, class and co-driver, but only one of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
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But to move into a Hyundai he's changing both class and car no?Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
i thought it was driver, codriver or car.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Would surprize me if Even does not get a phonecall from Matton in the coming days. They are in need of a driver that can start bringing it all the way to the finish, and get them manupoints!
I don't think so. You can't change the entrant I think. And the '17 WRCs must be entered by the manufacturer, so no possibility there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
He's not going to be in a 2017 WRC car that soon I think. It's not that simple, although he deserves it and every team could use him. His only chance is M-Sport with personal sponsors IMO.
Agreed. And he's not willing to pay to drive so M-Sport is no option. I believe he'll get a one-off drive this season and then a proper seat for 2018Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
"Norwegian ran an i20 WRC Car on the final day of Hyundai's pre Argentina test in Portugal but rolled car at some point during the test, a crash that was not mentioned".
Motorsport Monday - http://mmuk.realviewdigital.com/#folio=38
Also - http://mmuk.realviewdigital.com/#folio=39
https://carlocanovarallye.org/2017/0...ne-in-hyundai/
http://revistascratch.com/wrc/notici...-makinen-37767
If google translate is correct, Mikkelsen had negotiations with Tommi Mäkinen last week, but he wouldn't join the team before 2018.
As Mikkelsen, I'd be happy with this, try to focus on preparing for all events next season by doing the recces and driving the WRC2 events and maybe even testing a bit. Maybe he could even get a fourth car seat in one rally?
It's surely not bad the way it looks for him now, yet I could imagine that his inexperience in the new cars will be a remarkable disadvantage next year. If he is going to join Toyota (or any other team) next year it'd be good for him to sign the contract asap so he can at least do a lot of testing and development work with the car he'll be driving next year beside competing in WRC2 this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Mikkelsen needs to be careful... Ogier may come back on the market for 2018.
Ogier is not in market anymore
you portuguese guys seem to be very confident here regarding where Mikkelsen goes and where Ogier is or not.
Yes, but only saying vague, criptic things isn't helping at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
M-Sport would surely do good to get to the root of all the little brake- hydraulic- and electrical problems that slow all their drivers down in each rally to make Ogier more confident that he should stay there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Mikkelsen have any link to RAMSPORT yet?
No-one in any media is aware of Ogier's future and they speculate that he could go to another team in 2018 (hence why Mikkelsen isnt being snapped up). Tell us what you've heard or stop these pointless posts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Cool down Eddie, no need to follow the media or look into a crystal ball, Ogier will be at Citroen next year...it's written in the stars! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Your portuguese sky is different of mine :)
I can't reveal sources. And i don't have 100% certain, but... I will be here if no deal of Ford/M-Sport/Ogier in 2017 midseason.
FastEddie, i will stop then ;)
We hear you. Stop now and let us enjoy the speculation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
why you bother with portugeese ??? they lie all the time.
I remember the entry lists of madeira when they announced every WRC driver to take part and in the end nothing happened...
do not bother or give credit to lying low lifes and your life will be better.
Keep calm boy :) Portuguese no, some portuguese ;)
Coming from a Greek that’s, obviously, a joke; a bad one, not surprisingly.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Do you mean that Greeks are liars......so sad!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Guys you need to chill. The troll called out on the portuguese and Rally Power went on the counter attack. Portugal and Greece are both great places with very nice and honest people ;)
Yet more Hyundai rumors...this time Mikkelsen would drive the fourth Hyundai in 2018
http://pitlanef1.es/2017/05/04/andre...l-wrc-en-2018/
Did someone let the nutty kids out again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Watson
What is your problem now?Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt