Webber leaving F1 for Porsche at the end of 2013

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Originally Posted by jens

Another infraction and warning to vhatever for using rude language and attacking members personally. It may feel a bit harsh, but we can't let the forum derail badly.

You can have your own opinion. But in the interest of discussion, it would be good to debate sensibly, try to understand others and concentrate on the point you are trying to make. Hard to achieve, I know. But it is part of our drive to improve ourselves. :) And even if you realize that despite your best efforts not all agree with you - well, that's life. Can't help it and personal attacks don't improve this situation one bit, quite the opposite.

I am sure you can make all those points you have made without being rude with others. You can think about it logically - with a more gentle and emphatic way of speaking others can understand you better than they do at the moment, so it would be worth it. :)

Anyway, now let's enjoy a sensible debate.

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Announcing your infractions on a message board is highly inappropriate moderator behavior. You seemed to be more interest in the politics of "attack the new guy that hasn't been here for 10 years" than actually moderating, by both this comment and your recent actions as a mod, as well as inactions as a mod.

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Originally Posted by henners88

A hacksaw was even used to make the engine fit which is not what you'd expect to hear in modern F1.

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Hacksaws are handy things; designers always leave bits sticking out in inconvenient places. You should only worry when an engineer asks for bigger and bigger hammers.

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Originally Posted by Corvettian

Hacksaws are handy things; designers always leave bits sticking out in inconvenient places. You should only worry when an engineer asks for bigger and bigger hammers.

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Sorry, they're not called "hammers", they're called "tapometers".

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Originally Posted by vhatever

Announcing your infractions on a message board is highly inappropriate moderator behavior. You seemed to be more interest in the politics of "attack the new guy that hasn't been here for 10 years" than actually moderating, by both this comment and your recent actions as a mod, as well as inactions as a mod.

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Since when are infractions a secret. You don't have the slightest clue what proper moderator conduct is, else you would know that on most other boards you'd have taken delivery of a temporary ban by now. And you can bin the 'attack the new guy' claptrap. I got an infraction too, for ripping you a new one two weeks ago and I'm certainly not a new guy around here. Maybe if you would tone done your personal attacks, you wouldn't get so many flak.

But back to topic:
Just saw Webbo in the TB interview. Now that his retirement has been announced, he seems a lot less tense than at the start of the season.

Do we have the 'red card' icon under posts that receive infractions anymore? They were always public punishments and not something mods did in secret in the past I thought. That's 2 things I've corrected woo hoo!

Webber has nothing to lose now and can spend the rest of the season racing for himself rather than playing the team game. If only he was consistently fast enough to challenge Seb.

It might interesting to see how Webber performs now. He will not have much to worry about apart from driving as fast as he can. Afterall if he battles Seb against orders, what can they do. Sack him not going to go down well if its before the end of the season and hes leaving anyway.

Interesting stuff.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Webber has nothing to lose now and can spend the rest of the season racing for himself rather than playing the team game. If only he was consistently fast enough to challenge Seb.

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That reminds me of Portugal 1995: David Coulthard, who had faithfully played the part of No.2 driver to Damon Hill, was told before qualifying that Williams was going to dispense with his services at the end of the season. He went out and took pole, then set fastest lap in the race, which he also won.

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Originally Posted by Corvettian

That reminds me of Portugal 1995: David Coulthard, who had faithfully played the part of No.2 driver to Damon Hill, was told before qualifying that Williams was going to dispense with his services at the end of the season. He went out and took pole, then set fastest lap in the race, which he also won.

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Not against Seb, but lets hope Mark has a real go. That would make the season end more interesting for sure.

Although obviously Mark generally doesnt have the pace to bother him much, but at Silverstone Mark is epic. So we could be in for a classic British GP.

He was quick today. Was it 7 thou? Think he may challenge at the start unless his car 'bogs' down ;)

I have full confidence Mark can be in the top 10 after Lap 1. ;)