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Well if you are the one trying to overtake you might pressure the other one into something like that, but when you are in front it's always the one coming up from behind that has to brake later and later whatever you do, so he is the one pushing himself to the limit (and to the fault) not the one who is overtaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeansBeansBeans
Then again, Massa was clearly in a hurry to get past Hamilton, it couldn't have been missed by Lewis either, Massa also had the tendency to understeer which also was evident and i wouldn't be surprised if the team had discussed how Massa might drive, and how this could be dealt with.
Brilliant race craft by Hamilton in his first two races. I was a bit surprised by his comments in the press conference because to me it was out of character. Massive over reaction to call him arrogant by whoever said it earlier in the thread, but I liked seeing the confidence in Lewis and thankfully he has done most of his talking on the track.
Because "overtaking" is not the same from track to track. Australia for one is not known as an "overtaking" track. Bahrain on the other hand is wide, and purposefully designed for racing and enabling overtaking.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Now that being said, I still think Kimi would have done better in Australia given the same circumstances of Massa. Kimi is a better driver, and after Malaysia there is no longer any doubt in my mind. Massa will not have the chance to be WDC as long as he has teamates like MS and Kimi.
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Originally Posted by ioan
This is a circular discussion that will never end.
If I am racing YOU. I am in front and see you coming up behind me. My strategy in defending my position is to be the protagonist. How do I do that?
I brake as late as possible to try and force you into braking too late and overshooting the corner.
From your point of view, you just messed up. But from my point of view, you did EXACTLY what I wanted you to do.
Norbert was referring to LH holding up the Ferraris, not tricking Massa into outbreaking himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcot
Totally different issue.
For me it’s difficult to understand why some people are blaming Hamilton about his brilliant driving? Every driver has to do everything he can to keep his competitors behind him, so what’s wrong? Was he braking too late? Of course he must brake as late as possible. To tell the truth, Massa made couple of mistakes – that’s it. Every one can make a mistakes and this time it was Massa. In my mind it was even bigger mistake to give both McLarens an open door in start, which also was the reason to that Massa got this “feeling” that he must try to prepare it as soon as possible and overtake at leaste LH.
Imo it's "almost laughable", when some people try to blame Hamilton? What are they waiting? That LH says to Massa in the start "Excuse me Massa, but you must go first - it’s unfair if I go first"? or later on “Massa I’ll brake early in the second curve so you can overtake me – but be carefully so you don’t brake too late and … ” ;)
In today's press conference both Massa & Hamilton have commented on/been asked about their battle:
Felipe Massa:Lewis Hamilton:Quote:
"I would have done the same if I was in front. These days we prove that F1 is very difficult to pass, it depends also on the track. Malaysia is not an easy track to pass and he was fighting for his position and would not give it to me. It was a difficult corner, very dirty off line but it is the only way to try. For sure when Lewis is behind I will not give him an easy time either, but he did a very good job. This is not dirty driving, it is just normal."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/58007Quote:
"I didn't trick him. I think I said the wrong word. You cannot trick him. What you try to do when you are out there, you try and force them into an error. That is what I tried to do because that was the only way I could keep ahead of him, I pushed to stay ahead of him. I tried to force him into a mistake, not trick him."
Congrats to both drivers for this statements.
But part of me wonders if LH was told to change his story to a more corporate-management-pleasing one? Could be the start of RD micro-managing LH. If so, how long will LH take it?