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Yes, he is extremely talented, for sure. But my point was that while people claim how dominant and great Alonso is, he doesnt seem much better than Hamilton who is a rookie and must go through some learning experiences. He will soon start to beat Alonso...How "special" Alonso is then...? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jjanicke
I can guarantee you that all drivers on the grid would have "problems" with said rookie. So I think that credits Hamilton as opposed to detracting from Alonso.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalafi
Besides, Alonso has qualified and raced better than his team-mate has, including one win. I don't see how he has had any "problems" thus far.
Now to you, that may not be special, but F1 isn't and was never about being "special".
As far as I'm concerned, F1 is about winning.
And Alonso has won the past two F1 championships, being the youngest driver to do so. Now I personally think that's pretty special.
How difficult it is to understand what I ment... When Hamilton is immediately this close to Alonso, give him more time to get used to F1 more, to know the tracks better and to get better as a driver, he will beat Alonso not before long. So, Alonso for sure is a good driver BUT I thought he was a better driver than it now seems and Renault really had a super car for last two seasons. Its just my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
What has the speed of the Renault for the past two years got to do with anything? Remember, like Benneton in 1994-95 with Schumacher, Renault wouldn't have won anything without Alonso there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalafi
What I don't understand is your perceived problems Alonso has had. Alonso has beaten his team-mate twice in two attempts, has not been pressured by his team-mate has made no mistakes in doing so.
It may be well-hidden to some people, but Alonso is a brilliant driver.
Renault was made for Alonsos unique driving style and they had a great package. It obviously made him look better than he is. Yes, Alonso has beat Hamilton, but pacewise they are very close to each other, it seems. If Alonso is such a brilliant driver, should there be more gap between them? Considering Hamilton is just learning F1 and tracks and will surely improve a lot in next two years...Quote:
Originally Posted by Malllen
I dont want to take anything away from Alonso, his records speaks for itself, but he is not a second incarnation of God and he is not the only reason why Renault is now in such a mess and why McLaren is now quick again. Some people seem to think so...
I think it is now even a layman inclined to think that Alonso isn't an average driver, as opposed to the fact that many said he was having a great regret when he decided to leave Renault which was on top performance for McLaren which was having less reliability.
In this two opening races Renault, the former consecutive two winning car didn't look even better than midfield car, is a point that Alonso had remarkable contribution on the last Renault.
I’m not sure, would Hamilton perform such impressive if he is driving last year's McLaren.
I, for one, am not one of those people. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalafi
I agree with the rest of your post, except this:
True. Alonso basically developed that car, made the team work around him and showed the results by winning two titles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalafi
But I really do not understand this. How can you look better than you are, when you've just won a race and finished second in the other race, and beating your team-mate, on your first two races for a completely new team?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalafi
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Originally Posted by Malllen
I ment in Renault-times compared to Fisi who had a great difficulty to drive a car that was designed perfect for Alonso. Now when he is in a new team that made the car without Alonsos influence, rookie driver is very close to him when before the season all people thought that Hamilton would be a way behind Alonso. Im sure that if Mac had been developed like Renault, to perfectly suit Alonsos driving style, Hamilton wouldnt be nearly as close to him as he is right now.
Ah, I see where you're at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalafi
Well in contrast, I just think that's because Hamilton is pretty bloody good, especially compared to someone like Fisi.
Mallen, I questioned Ioans understanding of English due to the fact, for whatever reason, he thought I'd stated that I didn't believe Hamilton held up the Ferraris - when I stated I don't think he did it by compromising his race. I hope that's cleared it up.
I don't see why people believe Hamilton did deliberately drive slower than he could to hold up the Ferrari's. Hamilton qualified 0.7 behind Alonso. He was around 0.9-1s slower in the first stint. Its to be expected you lose a bit of time (0.2-0.3 at least) when you have to drive as defensively as Lewis did to keep the Ferrari's back, when you have to take different lines and different braking points.