Same Sex Marriage

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Originally Posted by In The Pits

What surprises me about all this, and maybe I'm just getting old, is why these people would want to shout about it from the rooftops.

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What do you mean? Those advocating same-sex marriage? Those wanting to enter into a same-sex marriage?

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Originally Posted by In The Pits

As for Mr Cameron, is he so desperate for votes?

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Perhaps, on this matter, he just believes in equality? I am no supporter of Cameron whatsoever, but while many things can be said about him, in no way is he a homophobe. Good on him for standing up to the dinosaurs in his party.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Who wants to shout about what from the rooftops?

Or are you talking about Christians who knock on my door to give me leaflets, and try and stop me in the street to force their beliefs on me? Maybe I am young but I see more religion being shouted at from the 'rooftops' than homosexual rights.

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Quite.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I think opinions about sex in general have changed in the modern era and its just as acceptable (or becoming) as an act of love rather than purely for reproduction..

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Since I'm already an old bigot dynosaur I dare to express my opinion that sex is a word that is more related to the animalic instinct than to love or reproduction.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I've been in relationships with girls (in the past before my wife obviously) ....

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As if we don't know she's monitorizing your posts.....

I think we're getting to the root of the problem. It's not about same sex Marriage but about people being intolerant to Homosexuality.

The Church knows it has to change as it's views are outmoded and intolerant. It's a pity they don't adopt the same enthusium against Pedophile Priests as they do with people in Lawful relationships.

However, it's up to the Church and it's followers to adapt their religion rather than the Government and Legislation IMHO. I think if they don't change, they will continue to distance themselves from the mainstream population and diminish in size and status. Can't say I wont be sorry.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I think we're getting to the root of the problem. It's not about same sex Marriage but about people being intolerant to Homosexuality.

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Exactly. They may have tried to convince themselves they're not homophobic (see also 'I'm not racist — some of my best friends are black') but, in truth, they are. What other interpretation can there be?

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

It's a pity they don't adopt the same enthusium against Pedophile Priests as they do with people in Lawful relationships.

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Well, one church in particular.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

However, it's up to the Church and it's followers to adapt their religion rather than the Government and Legislation IMHO. I think if they don't change, they will continue to distance themselves from the mainstream population and diminish in sie and status. Can't say I wont be sorry.

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The 2011 census figures published yesterday showed as much. Given the fact of Britain becoming a more secular society, something I think is a sign of progress rather than regression, it's rather rich for opponents of same-sex marriage to cite religion as a factor in alleged widespread support for their stance. It's even richer for someone, as seen in this very thread, to say they're not especially religious and then say that religion is a valid reason to oppose gay marriage. In fact, it's utterly disingenuous.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Hardly a revelation, or even a surprise, to most.

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Why would it be? The point was that the minority give the (unfortunate) impression that then influence the masses.

For every 'religious nut' one may encounter, there are plenty of religious followers keeping their beliefs to themselves.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Why would it be? The point was that the minority give the (unfortunate) impression that then influence the masses.

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'Influence the masses'? Really?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I'm not sensitive about this — rather, I'm irritated by your stance on it, which (for the reasons I gave) I think is utterly ill-developed.

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Ah - there it is then.

Your opinion is better than his, so he should go away, is that what you are saying?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

'Influence the masses'? Really?

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Well done!

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Originally Posted by Bezza

I don’t know the Bible cover to cover – I am not a Christian myself. However, I’m fairly sure gay marriage contradicts certain elements of it, without getting into too much detail – I’m sure you can imagine what I’m talking about.

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Some people choose to take parts of the bible literally to justify their homophobia, but get all vague and say it's open to interpretation when the text appears to forbid something they actually like doing - even shaving a beard is a no-no if you take it literally, and working on a Sunday should apparently result in death yet most of the staff at my local B&Q seem to be coping alright. Most of them...