Meanwhile in Vopland

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Originally Posted by Roamy

Certainly where you and I differ in opinions. I am a firm believer and supporter of the Castle Doctrine and the "Stand your Ground" laws.

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By that doctrine, someone wandering pissed into my garden would be at risk of being shot. I consider this a gross over-reaction.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

Many places in your country and mine are quite safe and a firearm is not prevalent in daily activities. However we also have the extreme opposite as I am sure Euro has also.

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Yes, the extreme opposite. There's no need to prepare for all extremes in life.

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Originally Posted by Eki

I don't either, but on an international forum American affairs are something most people know something about. Not many outside Finland know anything about Finnish politics or domestic news, so there wouldn't be much discussion.

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Why wouldn't you educate the forum public on what's going on in Finland, then? I'm sure there's plenty of interesting things going on there, both good and bad. Or is it just more convenient to discuss somebody else's problems instead of your own? Otherwise I just don't see how a case of shooting in Florida can be more relevant to Europeans than a case of hammer hitting in Finland.

Git off my property!

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Git off my property!

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darn you! hands offa me woodchucker missus ! :p

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Originally Posted by Rudy Tamasz

Why wouldn't you educate the forum public on what's going on in Finland, then? I'm sure there's plenty of interesting things going on there, both good and bad. Or is it just more convenient to discuss somebody else's problems instead of your own? Otherwise I just don't see how a case of shooting in Florida can be more relevant to Europeans than a case of hammer hitting in Finland.

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I don't believe goings-on in Finland are generally, with respect to the Finns, as important internationally or of as much interest as are those in the USA.

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Originally Posted by Starter

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I never realized that America, or it's citizens, were of so much international interest. I thought that most Europeans consider us to be dull and uninteresting if not outright boring. More to the point, why would the internal issues of one country be of wider interest than the internal issues of any other country?

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Because many of your internal issues/decisions affect our economies and so lives as well.

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Originally Posted by Starter

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I never realized that America, or it's citizens, were of so much international interest. I thought that most Europeans consider us to be dull and uninteresting if not outright boring. More to the point, why would the internal issues of one country be of wider interest than the internal issues of any other country?

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Oh, come on. Do you consider the internal affairs of Luxembourg as important to the rest of the world as those of the USA? If so, you have, if I may say so, a rather curious perspective.

I can’t speak for Europe, but there’s a saying in Canada: If the USA catches a cold we sneeze :p :

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I don't believe goings-on in Finland are generally, with respect to the Finns, as important internationally or of as much interest as are those in the USA.

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General doesn't work in this case. We are discussing a particular topic, which is gun control or the lack thereof in the U.S. I just don't see how that topic can be of any interest other than idle curiosity to Europeans. Most American guns and gun related crimes never cross the Atlantic.

I don't question the legitimacy of this thread or any other thread. I am just not comfortable with a trend of discussing all things American, some of those uniquely American and having no relation to Europeans whatsoever like the healthcare bill, gun control, religious politics and then using it to badmouth the U.S. and Americans. Everyone's free to do that, but to me it shows some poor judgment and bad taste. I wonder how soon we descend to discussing American Idol, Dancing with Stars and Kim Kardashian.

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Originally Posted by Starter

It should be.

And why are you picking on poor Luxembourg anyway? :p

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Poor? :eek: :p :