What goes on in Bangkok then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
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What goes on in Bangkok then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
In 1948, 65% of the Jews in Israel were foreign born immigrants (now about 30%):Quote:
Originally Posted by Starter
Latest Population Figures for Israel
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Some 5,874,300 of the population (75.3 percent) are Jewish Israelis; 1,600,100 (20.5%) are Israeli Arabs; and, those not identified as either make up the remaining 4.2% of the population, or 323,000 people. When the state was established, there were only 806,000 residents, with this number reaching its first and second million in 1949 and 1958 respectively. Today, over 70% of the total Jewish population are "Sabras" - born in Israel - compared with 35% native-born in 1948.
I think that's a bit of a poor example, to be honest, for the United Kingdom still officially exists as a single entity. You may not consider it to be united according to your definition, but that's an opinion. Few of the countries, however, that have had 'Democratic' in their title are anything of the sort according to any accurate sense of the word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Knock-on
One reason worth stating as often as possible is the fear of setting into action the immense Israeli government-funded media monitoring machine. Even specialist publications incur its wrath for printing even mild anti-Israeli statements. It is a country that refuses to tolerate criticism of the mildest form, and I find this highly disturbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by monadvspec
This whole deal is ridicules - I have been to TV and Jers - Just let this people live their lives. Carve out a country for the Pales and get on with it. TV reminded me of So Cal along the beach.
If you look at the whole deal for some reason most of the people have a screw loose. Look at Saddam - he had so many options i.e. 1. let the inspectors in 2. take 20 billion and move the family to Syria on and on. Quaddafi - Take all your wealth and sh!t and leave. Iran - Get off the nuclear kick and just live life. On and on - but oh no these people are going to fck around until they start a hell of a war. I wish someone would just give me the option to take millions and move. Can you spell Italy??? I would be there in a heartbeat.
I think this raises an interesting point. Is there not, sadly, quite a large constituency on both sides with whom the status quo goes down well, no matter what the cost may be in lives? It may be a little simplistic to say so, but there was an extent to which I feel this was true for many years in Northern Ireland. People may have said they wanted peace, but their voting habits didn't seem to indicate it. Only when negotiation started was any progress made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Roamy
Finland bought a license for the Blenheims already in 1938 from Britain, and the planes were built in Finland. Finland also bought Brewster F2A Buffalos from the US in 1939. Messerschmitt Bf 109 started to replace the Brewsters in 1943.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Talking about brown-nosing Stalin, the US gave him fighter planes that were used against Finland:Quote:
Originally Posted by Eki
Soviet Air Forces - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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As with many allied countries in World War II the Soviet Union received western aircraft by Lend-Lease, mostly P-39 Airacobras, P-63 Kingcobras, Hawker Hurricanes, Curtiss P-40 Kittyhawks and A-20 Havocs. Soviets in P-39s scored the highest individual kill totals of any pilot ever to fly a U.S. aircraft.[citation needed] Two air regiments were equipped with Spitfire Mk. Vb in early 1943 but immediately experienced unrelenting losses due to friendly fire as the British aircraft looked too much like its German nemesis, the Bf 109[citation needed]. Lend-Lease aircraft from the US and UK accounted for nearly 12% of total Soviet air power.[14]
You don't get an empire the size of the Great British Empire and hold onto it by being straightforward and honest. Ever heard of perfidious Albion? The smart untrustworthy country that likes nothing better than playing political games?Quote:
Originally Posted by schmenke
The Balfour declaration only had one objective, it was to deny the Germans who were running out of funds access to credit from banks, many of which were run by Jews. It was purposefully wooly and was just a general statement of intent with no timeline, no means of establishing that homeland. Once WW1 was won the Brits forgot about it, the Jews never did.
As you said, at the same time Lawrence of Arabia was busy telling the Arabs including in Palestine that they would get independence if they fought off the Ottomans, they both couldn't both get what the British promised them could they?
The British never wanted to give Palestine away, its too close to the Suez canal and losing it to another power could mean that British lines of communication with the Far East would be cut. If that meant some Jews and Palestinians felt betrayed by the British then they could go to the back of the long queue of people around the world who harboured a grievance against Britain.
And yes the policy of the British was clear, migration to Palestine by Jews was strictly prohibited to keep the demographic status quo there in favour of palestinians and prevent a disturbance of the peace. Its pretty well documented.
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Originally Posted by Eki
Ahhhhh....The Wizard of Wikipedia strikes again.
Enemy of my Enemy is my friend. That was the case with US/Soviet relations during WW2....After V-E day all bets were off.