why no penalty for Hamilton?

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

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Get a life, or get outta here. :down:

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maybe you should lighten up on making fun of race and calling others racists, or follow your own advice.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

The SpeedTV commentators clarified the penalty shortly after it was served IIRC. When it first flashed up on the screens they said it was probably due to pit lane speeding, which was speculation on their part since he had just come out of the pits. In either case I knew why he served the penalty well before race end.



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So did I. Aftr I posted. And for of course, if all you can say is hater, then you have said nothing at all.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

What a load of fuss over nothing.

Oh no, wait. It's Lewis Hamilton. In that case this was a dumb, dangerous and thoughtless spin turn which put the lives of other drivers at risk and he should be kicked out of the sport for life :rolleyes:

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Ah yes , you're playing the "WAAAAH , I always get picked on !" card .

Lewis is a great driver .
But , he's a great driver who makes some pretty scary decisions in the heat of the moment .

He did a spin amongst a bunch of other guys , and got away with it this time , but for a drive-through .
Think about what you'd say if he wasn't so lucky to have DiResta able to swerve for him .
What if he'd caused a big brou-ha-ha at the exit of that chicane ?

There were five or so cars in close proximity to the lad there . The potential for mayhem was rather intense .

In that interview , he says he doesn't know why he was penalized . He says it's to be expected .
He's all smiley , despite having just finished off the podium in fourth because he was punished for something unknown .

Does this sound like the Lewis we know ?

Then , Paul says he hasn't a problem , but might have if he was losing points as a result . So , he really does have a problem with it .


I'm just glad he got any sort of penalty for it because it was a very scary move , and one that should not be repeated .

As well as saying sorry , perhaps he should thank Paul for having the skill to miss him .

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

So , the majority of my post was criticizing people calling people names , and the part you focus on is the part where I have an opinion against your favourite driver ?
You then proceed to call me names , say I am ruining the sport , and call my posting nonsense .
Then you tell me to leave .


I've been here for roughly ten years , and have rarely met someone as rude as yourself .

In fact , I've often argued vehemently with our mods many times when various posters considered extremely obnoxious by most , to keep them from being banned .




I have a different view of this incident to yours .

You'll just have to accept that , unless you can convince me otherwise .
Calling me names won't work .

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People like you are ruining the sport, boy. It is slowly becoming a nanny sport because of over stewarding and critics like you trying to criticise drivers at any instance. In a way, this is all down to the information age. Until the internet arrived which gave people like you a platform on which to announce your PC view on sport, the FIA, Stewards and drivers simply didn't have to take note. They could get on with their job and not be pressurised by likes of you that expect every driver with adrenaline rushing through their body to be able to remember every little rule in the book mid race. People like you, my dear man, are a plague on sport and the world.

You're welcome to your view of course. I'm going to continue posting. If you have a problem with the way I post, feel free to go to the Mods. They can speak to me about it if they have an issue.

Regards your view on this incident, you're wrong. Hamilton didn't see DiResta. No driver in their right mind would spin their car into the path of another intentionally. He has apologied. Do you want him to grow eyes on the back of his head? Perhaps have a rear and side view camera on the car with a mini tv screen in the cockpit so he can fully check every angle? That's the only way yesterday could have been avoided. This is just another attempt by you to bash a genuinely great driver at every opportunity you get.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Each infraction must be considered in isolation unless a suspended sentance applies.

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I agree with this .

First level of infraction gets a reprimand . Three reprimands gets more penalty .
Second level gets you penalty , and severity determines extent .

That's the face of it .

But , we must imagine that everyone present knows the history of each of the drivers , except , perhaps , the newest recruits , so the past will affect the penalty , whether it's written into the book or not .
And , in the driver debriefs in front of stewards , attitude is essential to keeping penalties small .

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

People like you are ruining the sport, boy. It is slowly becoming a nanny sport because of over stewarding and critics like you trying to criticise drivers at any instance. In a way, this is all down to the information age. Until the internet arrived which gave people like you a platform on which to announce your PC view on sport, the FIA, Stewards and drivers simply didn't have to take note. They could get on with their job and not be pressurised by likes of you that expect every driver with adrenaline rushing through their body to be able to remember every little rule in the book mid race. People like you, my dear man, are a plague on sport and the world.

You're welcome to your view of course. I'm going to continue posting. If you have a problem with the way I post, feel free to go to the Mods. They can speak to me about it if they have an issue.

Regards your view on this incident, you're wrong. Hamilton didn't see DiResta. No driver in their right mind would spin their car into the path of another intentionally. He has apologied. Do you want him to grow eyes on the back of his head? Perhaps have a rear and side view camera on the car with a mini tv screen in the cockpit so he can fully check every angle? That's the only way yesterday could have been avoided. This is just another attempt by you to bash a genuinely great driver at every opportunity you get.

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First , let me say sorry for calling you rude .

You are passionate about your favourite driver , and defend him with fervour .

Hamilton should have known he had a pack of cars right behind him in the first place .

"No driver in their right mind would spin their car into the path of another intentionally ."
The key part of this statement is the phrase is "in thier right mind" .


At that point , Lewis was under huge pressure trying to hold on to the lead .
He knew , especially with guys close behind , that he had to be fast , or wait for them to go by before spinning it back around .

Simply , he made the wrong decision in the heat of the moment .

It could happen to any driver out there , but it seems like it happens to Lewis a lot .

And , whether you like to believe it or not , I would criticize any driver in this situation .

Now , please excuse me while I go and ruin the sport .
Have a nice day .

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Originally Posted by Bagwan

I agree with this .

First level of infraction gets a reprimand . Three reprimands gets more penalty .
Second level gets you penalty , and severity determines extent .

That's the face of it .

But , we must imagine that everyone present knows the history of each of the drivers , except , perhaps , the newest recruits , so the past will affect the penalty , whether it's written into the book or not .
And , in the driver debriefs in front of stewards , attitude is essential to keeping penalties small .

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Certainly the points should already be there.
Howevrr, when Schuie bumped JV in the title
fight, Schuie was not only out of the race and lost the WDC, he lost all of his points for the season.

Clearly a penalty based on "past performances".

If this had been the only time that hamilton had been out of line for this season, that would be one thing. But it was not.

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Originally Posted by The Black Knight

People like you are ruining the sport, boy. It is slowly becoming a nanny sport because of over stewarding and critics like you trying to criticise drivers at any instance. In a way, this is all down to the information age. Until the internet arrived which gave people like you a platform on which to announce your PC view on sport, the FIA, Stewards and drivers simply didn't have to take note. They could get on with their job and not be pressurised by likes of you that expect every driver with adrenaline rushing through their body to be able to remember every little rule in the book mid race. People like you, my dear man, are a plague on sport and the world.

You're welcome to your view of course. I'm going to continue posting. If you have a problem with the way I post, feel free to go to the Mods. They can speak to me about it if they have an issue.

Regards your view on this incident, you're wrong. Hamilton didn't see DiResta. No driver in their right mind would spin their car into the path of another intentionally. He has apologied. Do you want him to grow eyes on the back of his head? Perhaps have a rear and side view camera on the car with a mini tv screen in the cockpit so he can fully check every angle? That's the only way yesterday could have been avoided. This is just another attempt by you to bash a genuinely great driver at every opportunity you get.

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No need for new eyes. if you had bothered to look, he was facing backwards and then sideways. OTH, if the fact was true that he could not see, then he had no right to be blindly spinning his car around in the racing line.

Duh

As to your other comments, whatever :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Certainly the points should already be there.
Howevrr, when Schuie bumped JV in the title
fight, Schuie was not only out of the race and lost the WDC, he lost all of his points for the season.

Clearly a penalty based on "past performances".

If this had been the only time that hamilton had been out of line for this season, that would be one thing. But it was not.

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No , Billy , ma man , the red shoe said it was his intent , with "deliberate , but instinctual" in his interview with the stewards .
Lewis chose the pie-eyed "what did I do wrong" line .

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Originally Posted by markabilly

No need for new eyes. if you had bothered to look, he was facing backwards and then sideways. OTH, if the fact was true that he could not see, then he had no right to be blindly spinning his car around in the racing line.

Duh

As to your other comments, whatever :rolleyes:

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There's a good point .