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27th April 2007, 10:28
ioan

Interesting news

For those of you who are interested in F1 models there is a new 1/20 scale model being released by Fujimi in June:

G. Villeneuve's 1982 San Marino GP Ferrari 126C2

I already ordered mine!
28th April 2007, 04:48
codalunga

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Originally Posted by schmenke

It's been many years since I've built a plastic model, but from what I remember Revell kits often had poor-fitting parts.
Tamiya was just the opposoite... always good quality.

Some early Tamiya kits are nothing special. Some Revell kits are fine. To their credit, Revell have done a lot of F1 subjects in recent years with last year's BMW Sauber being their latest. And they did do a 1/12 F2002 and have a Audi R10 on the way! Its been eons since Tamiya did a 1/12 F1 car!
30th April 2007, 11:57
ioan

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Originally Posted by codalunga

Some early Tamiya kits are nothing special. Some Revell kits are fine. To their credit, Revell have done a lot of F1 subjects in recent years with last year's BMW Sauber being their latest. And they did do a 1/12 F2002 and have a Audi R10 on the way! Its been eons since Tamiya did a 1/12 F1 car!

The 1/12 F2002 was one of the very few, aybe the only, good Revell F1 kits and it was very very expensive. Plus their other F1 kits are all 1/24 (while other F1 kit manufacturers had generally 1/20 scale models).

This being said I'm waiting to see the quality of the Revell Audi R10 and the Ferrari 250 GTO (both gonna be released in July this year).
30th April 2007, 21:13
codalunga

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Originally Posted by ioan

The 1/12 F2002 was one of the very few, aybe the only, good Revell F1 kits and it was very very expensive. Plus their other F1 kits are all 1/24 (while other F1 kit manufacturers had generally 1/20 scale models).

This being said I'm waiting to see the quality of the Revell Audi R10 and the Ferrari 250 GTO (both gonna be released in July this year).

The F2002 usually sells for about $75, at the lower end of the 1/12 scale F1 kit spectrum. Its detail is not great but we can't be too picky these days. There is some aftermarket parts to spruce it up. Its prepainted and the paint doesn't all match on mine, so a redo is in order.

Revell have reissued some old Protar 1/12 kits in 1/12, like the 126C and 312T (and perhaps the 312T2, T3, T4 and T5?) Sometimes Protar was on the mark, sometimes they fell short. A review in R&T put the Protar 312T close but not quite at the quality of the Tamiya version. Revell does some fine work sometimes. I have the Revell and Tamiya Enzos on my bench. Although the Tamiya smokes the Revell, the Tamiya is also 3X the price of the Revell. Had we never gotten the Tamiya, we'd be pretty happy with it.

The upcoming 250 GTO is a reissue of the old Italeri kit, also once boxed as Testors. Modelers endlessly discuss the merits of it verses the Gunze and Protar versions but if one looks through a lot of old model car annuals, most of the knock yer socks off contest winning GTOs were based on the Italeri.
1st May 2007, 09:09
wmcot

Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

I am sticking to 1/43 diecast and metal kits due to space limits.
1st May 2007, 15:01
ioan

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Originally Posted by codalunga

The F2002 usually sells for about $75, at the lower end of the 1/12 scale F1 kit spectrum. Its detail is not great but we can't be too picky these days. There is some aftermarket parts to spruce it up. Its prepainted and the paint doesn't all match on mine, so a redo is in order.

Revell have reissued some old Protar 1/12 kits in 1/12, like the 126C and 312T (and perhaps the 312T2, T3, T4 and T5?) Sometimes Protar was on the mark, sometimes they fell short. A review in R&T put the Protar 312T close but not quite at the quality of the Tamiya version. Revell does some fine work sometimes. I have the Revell and Tamiya Enzos on my bench. Although the Tamiya smokes the Revell, the Tamiya is also 3X the price of the Revell. Had we never gotten the Tamiya, we'd be pretty happy with it.

The upcoming 250 GTO is a reissue of the old Italeri kit, also once boxed as Testors. Modelers endlessly discuss the merits of it verses the Gunze and Protar versions but if one looks through a lot of old model car annuals, most of the knock yer socks off contest winning GTOs were based on the Italeri.

The last times I saw the 1/12 Revell F2002 it was about 90€ (117$), I've found it a bit expensive (without talking about the price of the needed upgrade kit).

One of the things I don't like with Revell is the fit of the parts.
But the most important turn off is the 1/24 scale.

I'm looking forward to the 250 GTO though, going by your opinion it will be quite a nice kit.
1st May 2007, 15:05
ioan

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Originally Posted by wmcot

Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

They sure would look much better.
I guess that it's simply because they are simply targeting different clients and they also want to make sure that once you started with die casts (or 1/20 kits) you will stick to collecting them.
2nd May 2007, 01:36
codalunga

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Originally Posted by wmcot

Anybody know why 1/20 is a popular scale in plastic models while 1/18 is popular in diecast? Wouldn't they look better side-by-side if the scales were the same?

I am sticking to 1/43 diecast and metal kits due to space limits.

Although there had been 1/20 kits before, Tamiya's 1/20 line launched around 1977 became very popular due in large part to the very popular Tyrrell P34 and Porsche 935. They have released over 50 kits in that scale.

There was a smattering of 1/18 in the late 60s/early 70s, including four racecars by Tamiya, but the scale didn't catch on until the diecast explosion many years later. We should be lucky 1/16th faded away in there somewhere, as well as 1/28! The first F1 diecast I remember seeing was 1/14th scale Ferrari 312 from 1974.

I buy primarily for subject matter and have many cars in many scales so having them all in one scale isn't important to me. Most modelers I know, and that's a lot, model in more than 1 scale.
2nd May 2007, 07:03
wmcot

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Originally Posted by codalunga

Although there had been 1/20 kits before, Tamiya's 1/20 line launched around 1977 became very popular due in large part to the very popular Tyrrell P34 and Porsche 935. They have released over 50 kits in that scale.

There was a smattering of 1/18 in the late 60s/early 70s, including four racecars by Tamiya, but the scale didn't catch on until the diecast explosion many years later. We should be lucky 1/16th faded away in there somewhere, as well as 1/28! The first F1 diecast I remember seeing was 1/14th scale Ferrari 312 from 1974.

I buy primarily for subject matter and have many cars in many scales so having them all in one scale isn't important to me. Most modelers I know, and that's a lot, model in more than 1 scale.

I guess I have always been picky about scale since I was a kid building plastic models. I used to buy 1/24 or 1/25 models for $2.00 a kit ($1.50 on sale!)

I must have a bit of OCD because I'm so picky about scale. For example, I started to buy BBR factory built 1/43 diecast Ferraris to replace my older (and cheaper) MiniChamps, Brumm, etc models and I noticed that some of the BBRs are a bit larger than their MiniChamps counterparts.
2nd May 2007, 16:35
schmenke

I've never purchased a BBR model. How is the quality comparted to Minichamps?

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