Lotus-Renault V Team Lotus

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

The only problem with that is that the chassis will remain titled 'Renault', and on the race timing screens on TV we'll see how well Kubica is doing in his Renault, not Lotus. The Lotus name won't appear during the races at all. By merely being the title sponsor they've missed out massively. And if they want to have the chassis renamed Lotus they will have to ask the rest of the grid for permission to do so including Fernandes who may be slightly obstructive in that regard.

Group Lotus would be better off spending their money actually designing and developing real cars they can sell rather than frittering it away sponsoring every team that moved. I doubt they'll be around long enough to see out the duration of the contract they've signed with Genii.

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Or even better, go into partnership with the team on the grid that are already called Lotus. It just makes no sense at all on Proton's part.

Im siding with Fernandes on this one, he's got the blessings from the Chapman family and the naming rights from David Hunt, that to me is enough.

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Originally Posted by DazzlaF1

Or even better, go into partnership with the team on the grid that are already called Lotus. It just makes no sense at all on Proton's part.

Im siding with Fernandes on this one, he's got the blessings from the Chapman family and the naming rights from David Hunt, that to me is enough.

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Originally Posted by DazzlaF1

Or even better, go into partnership with the team on the grid that are already called Lotus. It just makes no sense at all on Proton's part.

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Or one move better than that would have been not to spend any money getting involved in F1 at all and let Fernandes spend his own money promoting the Lotus name, most laypeople wouldn't have had a clue the two companies were unrelated. Its all crazy.

Thoose people are only trying to suck the last drop out of the name. Vultures, childish ones.

Lotus are not producing a F1 car, the company should be glad if they are clever enough to loan moore money for the production of their road cars.

Interesting little ditty on this saga on JA on F1 blog....

http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/1...it-goes-legal/

Tony Fernandes has been quite calm and reserved throughout this entire ordeal. Team Lotus was developed by Fernandes and now Bahar is coming in to take that notoriety out of his grasp. I completely agree with Tony's stance that Reanult are the instigators of this fiasco and an agreement should be reached behind closed doors.

I have a bad feeling that we will see Team Lotus sink since Bernie is tied up with Genii Capital, therefore, in bed with Gerard Lopez. I just hope that Team Lotus can achieve results and beat the living **** out of Renault next season.

I'm siding with Tony Fernandes & Co on this one as well.

He's the one who brought Lotus back to F1. Yes, arguably it's not the same team that went bankrupt in 1994, but he's got the blessing from Chapman family, he made a livery true to Lotus' heart, he's built this team from the ground up. And to me, they were the only professional new team of 2010, handily beating out HRT & Virgin.

Not to mention how close the factory is to the original Team Lotus factory, and the naming rights from David Hunt.

Group Lotus is coming across as a spoilt child, who now wants to have his cake and eat it too. I love their road cars, but they are acting in bad faith here IMO.

cigarette advertising laws world wide
could the colors of group lotus cars be band under cigarette advertising laws ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_advertising

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there is now a blanket ban on advertising in Europe, and the cars are not allowed to show any links with the tobacco companies and tobacco advertising started to exit.

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Q: dose colors = link ?

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

cigarette advertising laws world wide
could the colors of group lotus cars be band under cigarette advertising laws ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_advertising


Q: dose colors = link ?

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It's a grey area to be honest. Was last year's Renault (yellow + black) subliminally advertising Benson & Hedges? Of course it wasn't, but at the end of the day you can't ban a simple colour scheme, or you shouldn't anyway.

People linking black & gold to JPS will already be aware of the cigarette brand. An innocent young kid with no knowledge of cigarette packets will see a black and gold car and nothing more, so no harm done.

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Originally Posted by V12

It's a grey area to be honest. Was last year's Renault (yellow + black) subliminally advertising Benson & Hedges? Of course it wasn't, but at the end of the day you can't ban a simple colour scheme, or you shouldn't anyway.

People linking black & gold to JPS will already be aware of the cigarette brand. An innocent young kid with no knowledge of cigarette packets will see a black and gold car and nothing more, so no harm done.

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B&H colours are gloss gold colour, which EJ and his team ran in '96, but it did not work on TV, so they changed to yellow.

Renault, most likely before B&H came to F1, have traditionally run yellow and black.

The black and gold however is something you would traditionally associate, in F1 circles, with JPS and Lotus.