Johnson and Kahne say "they are in"

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Originally Posted by Scotty G.

Jeff Gordon is too old and too rich and too married to give the Indy 500 a try now. 10 years ago, it would maybe be different. But he is very content with being a multi-time Cup champion and multi-race winner at Indy.

And if complete hacks like Milka Duno, Marty Roth and all of these road racers who have no oval experience and no experience racing at anything over 150 MPH, can figure out how to run 220 MPH in a Dallara, I don't see some of the BEST American driving talent around, having any trouble.

Give any of these Cup boys a good car with a good engineer, and they will be right there. In no time. Racing will be a different animal, but getting up to speed? No problem.

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Those Hacks are not competitive and a joke. It is the last 1% of speed that you need to be competive. The Hack's cannot get within 5% of the best time. The NASCAR guys will get a lot closer, but they wont win.

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

Then why didn't the POLE WINNING car have a sponsor? And it was driven by a three time winner with the noteriety of winning Dancing With The Stars.

'Globally recognised brand'? It isn't even the biggest race in Central Indiana anymore. Guess what, I'll guarantee you that the pole winning car for the Brickyard 400 will have a sponsor.

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Lee Roy, you do of course ignore all the sponsors on the winning car of the Indy 500. I guess you also know that people in Europe still know what the Indy 500 is. I can tell you they don't care if Kansas has an oval, or have a clue what Darlington is. They may have heard of Bristol, but it isn't the Indy 500. Nice try, but the reality is the Indy 500 is a brand, and your wishful thinking for the death of indycar racing wont change that.

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Leeroy....

Just to be clear it's widely accepted that $$$$ aS funneled from the by to support Tonys delusional vision..... A vision that was a complete failure, that has virtually put aowr on the brink of extinction, certainly the endangered list


So.... Do you have a second example of ow clinging on to NASCAR?

Or are you just upset that a few fans have hurt your feelings over the years?

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I think you have just hit the nail on the head. He is tired of what he perceives as snobbery on the behalf of Indycar fans, of course completely looking the other way when some yob with a Tony Stewart shirt can say with equal conviction that those "furrin boys are just a bunch of pansy ******s who cant drive" and then watch JPM and not see the hypocracy in it.

Americans are always quick to point something great in their nation as it being the world's best. The World Series, the World Champions are often tagged on the winners of the NBA final, never mind that they never actually play anyone outside of the NBA. Not that I doubt they are correct, but there is a lot of jingoism and naivety about the rest of the world and its sports. Now we see a brand that the rest of the world actually still recognizes, even if they know it isn't what it once was, and Lee Roy wants to rip it apart for some perceived griveance. What he isnt' telling you of course is he used to watch CART before the IRL came along and he is an f1 fan. I guess he hasn't been insulted by some Brit or Frenchman at an F1 race in Europe. If he thinks Indycar fans are hard on NASCAR, go to Europe and spread this myth that the NASCAR drivers are the best in the world....

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

My apologies ..... I just double checked .... You didn't use the word 'continually'....

That was just my interpretation of your comment....

But.....

I guess I just don't see Tony funding his vision or the possibility of a racer from NASCAR winning 20mil as riding the NASCAR coattails ...



Any other examples with ANY validity to support your statement

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aowr at one time got publicity on a television "magazine show" called RPM2night (or as aowr fans used to call it: NASCAR2night). When NASCAR left to start their own show, RPM2night died. Where can I catch any news on aowr on a regular basis on an accessible outlet now?

How's that?

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I think you have just hit the nail on the head. He is tired of what he perceives as snobbery on the behalf of Indycar fans, of course completely looking the other way when some yob with a Tony Stewart shirt can say with equal conviction that those "furrin boys are just a bunch of pansy ******s who cant drive" and then watch JPM and not see the hypocracy in it.

Americans are always quick to point something great in their nation as it being the world's best. The World Series, the World Champions are often tagged on the winners of the NBA final, never mind that they never actually play anyone outside of the NBA. Not that I doubt they are correct, but there is a lot of jingoism and naivety about the rest of the world and its sports. Now we see a brand that the rest of the world actually still recognizes, even if they know it isn't what it once was, and Lee Roy wants to rip it apart for some perceived griveance. What he isnt' telling you of course is he used to watch CART before the IRL came along and he is an f1 fan. I guess he hasn't been insulted by some Brit or Frenchman at an F1 race in Europe. If he thinks Indycar fans are hard on NASCAR, go to Europe and spread this myth that the NASCAR drivers are the best in the world....

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As usual, you waste a lot of bandwidth typing some fantasy where you don't know what your talking about and don't even worry about if it's true or not. Putting you back on my ignore list since you're a complete waste of time.

And speaking of Europe, I'm leaving in a couple of weeks for my second trip this year.

Good bye.

Anyone watching the NASCAR race at Road America?

Yup! Pulling for Jacques. :up:

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

Yup! Pulling for Jacques. :up:

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Me too. Been a big JV fan since I first saw him race at Nazareth in 1995.

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

aowr at one time got publicity on a television "magazine show" called RPM2night (or as aowr fans used to call it: NASCAR2night). When NASCAR left to start their own show, RPM2night died. Where can I catch any news on aowr on a regular basis on an accessible outlet now?

How's that?

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Not sure I understand your point.....

Are you suggesting that when rpmtonite reported on aowr that aowr was suckeling thenascar teet?

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Originally Posted by SarahFan

Not sure I understand your point.....

Are you suggesting that when rpmtonite reported on aowr that aowr was suckeling thenascar teet?

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RPM2night only existed because of NASCAR. Every other race series covered benefited from that.