that statement needs a big fat IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
*theres a major difference between buying a ride and finding sponsorship
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that statement needs a big fat IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by Scotty G.
*theres a major difference between buying a ride and finding sponsorship
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Originally Posted by markabilly
does garnering press make you a superstar?
yes, for certain.....perception is reality and reality is NOT perceptionQuote:
Originally Posted by Ken
Face it, in terms of getting the media attention on IRL races, she is it. :(
If Champ cars had her as a "star" with them instead of the IRL, CC probably still be around and the IRL gone
Tis a shame that OWR in the USA has come to this...
YMMV....yes she is a media star....Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
BUT IMO she is not a superstar
Indycar isn't going anywhere because of or not because of her. Her media attention helped during the weakest of weak years but has steadily worn off (especially last year and into this year). She still probably gets more media attention than most other drivers but the playing field has certainly leveled as the truth about her becomes more obvious to the casual fans. The TV ratings have remained virtually unchanged, teams haven't been able to find sponsorships any easier, and IZOD came on board knowing she's likely going to NASCAR. (I mention IZOD because they are the reason for the marginal improvement in ratings so far this year).
Now contrary to these observations in Indycar, NASCAR has taken the myth factor over and has ran with it on their unknowledgable fan base. She has another 2 years of opportunity there and as I called 3 years ago, it is game set match for miss Danica. She may cling to a ride for 1 more contract after that but by then the NASCAR fan base will have gone the same way as that of the Indycar fan base. You can only hide and over-glorify someboy so long and then it is over unless you can perform.
**Wanted to mention that at Long Beach, I realized it was actually the first event I'd been to where Danica was racing since the old IRL days at Phoenix, before DanicaMania. I was surprised that people wearing Danica gear where few and far between. I saw more people wearing stuff from years and teams gone by than hers. It wasn't non-existent but certainly not the overwhelming cascade that has been in other years and events. Her hauler didn't have a large crowd, a few more people there than at some of the ALMS haulers. I'm not saying her gear isn't still the best selling but there absolutely was a noticeable change in what I've seen on TV from years before. The "SHINE" has been knocked down by a coat of flat black from what I see.
there you go again, confusing perception and reality....talent and stardom...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken
I think of Danica and talent, and then i think of Miley Cyrus and talent, and get all confused until I remember perception is reality.......
no..Quote:
Originally Posted by markabilly
there you go again confusing a media star with a superstar
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Originally Posted by TURN3
I stated:
Then somebody stated Alex Tagliani. Tags has several professional wins under his belt and is a much more accomplished driver than Ms, Patrick.Quote:
Ms. Patrick has been a Professional Race Car driver for almost 10 years. Her total wins amount to just................1
Can you name me any other driver with that record and still call them "A Talent"?
Where would Danica's "marketability" be if she hadn't done the trashy FMH photoshoot, and was relying on talent, like most everyone else? Keep the talent level the same, the spoiled brat attitude the same, but no trashy (IMHO) photoshoots and PimpDaddy ads? Just food for thought.
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Originally Posted by Ken
IRL came to TMS, and I happenned to be there for last year's race.....the Dallas Morning news had only a brief mention about the race, along with some TV stations and it was all about danica....take that DP away, and reading the papers or listening to the news, there would not have even been a whisper about the race. Zero. and guess how many other names were mentioned before the race? Zero
and the headlines and news was where Danica placed.....if you wanted to know who won, it was mentiond somewhere, buried in the small print, maybe
In this world, the days when talents like Mario, Rutherford, Sneva, Foyt and even Zanardi, who were superstars in their day....even Tony Stewart.... are gone.......replaced by media stars.....or i should say, "one and only media star" sort of like Miley and the Jonas brothers replacing the likes Springsteen, beatles, Stones and so on..
People watch to see names/drivers they love to see and who they associated/identified with as to the racing. That is what brings SPONSORS!!!!the lifeblood, like it or not, yea purists (who I tend to be one of those, as I hate ads palstered all over cars, but that is life...)
And frankly, all the IRL has is Penske and Danica whose names the motor racing public might recognize....and one of them don't drive race cars...although sometimes i can not figure out which one ..otherwise
What is there left after danica? Who? Castroneverwas? :rotflmao:
Was he not the big superstar of that other series....Champ cars???????
All the good that did...
Sad to see, so very sad.