Briatore's ban overturned in French court

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7th January 2010, 09:52
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

As far as the Renault crash goes, I'm not sure that was cheating. Bad taste maybe, but not cheating. It really happened way too early in the race to ensure any result except a Piquet, Jr DNF and that could have been done by calling the car in for some phantom problem. It's not much different than other sports where a coach has a player fake an injury to stop the clock without using a time out.
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Do you actually know what happened?
It was cheating and it was cheating bigtime. With the SC rules being what they were, renault designed a strategy for Alonso to win by pitting him early and then having Piquet crash and ruin everyone elses strategies. It gave him alonso a very good chance of winning as he got the lead, otherwise he would have had no chance.

Piquet having a DNF was for only one reason - to get Alonso the win, so I see no reason why you talk about "possible phantom problems"

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Originally Posted by Copse

As a summary: We praise this decision because we value the rule of law higher than revenge. Your comments make it seem like you would fit in quite well as a policeman in some kind of dictatorial state. That usually works rather well right up until it is you or your family that get summarily sentenced and executed.

I am not quite sure where you came up with that idiotic comment, but hey whatever floats your boat.
What was wrong with the way the penalty was given to FB? Mosley was involved?

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

. In terms of driver management I think they really cannot stop him.

yes they can. They simply wont give SL to the drivers he manages.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

On the other hand Ferrari were given a legal cheating hand with the secret FIA sanctioned technical veto..

that was not cheating.
7th January 2010, 09:55
I am evil Homer

Ha ha try getting the SL block on Briatore drivers to stand up in court....clue: it won't due to EU employment law.
7th January 2010, 09:56
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

Ha ha try getting the SL block on Briatore drivers to stand up in court....clue: it won't due to EU employment law.

If Briatore is banned from being involved in F1, he also cannot manage the drivers.
7th January 2010, 10:55
pino

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

I am not quite sure where you came up with that idiotic comment, but hey whatever floats your boat.

How about we quit insults as well...
7th January 2010, 12:42
I am evil Homer

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

If Briatore is banned from being involved in F1, he also cannot manage the drivers.

Not a chance the FIA a) has that as a ratified punishment on its books and thus b) could legally enforce it.

Sure you can ban him from team management positions but blocking drivers he manages? Not gonna happen.
7th January 2010, 12:52
Garry Walker

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Originally Posted by pino

How about we quit insults as well...

Did you actually read his comment about me being suited as a policeman in a dictatorship and why single out me, especially as I did not insult him, but rather attacked his post regarding me?
7th January 2010, 13:46

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Originally Posted by henners88

The fact that Mclaren had a "live feed" of information in the months prior to the 2007 season and up to the first race was, I agree the first to be proved. Mclaren were fined for receiving it through a rogue employee, so why weren't Ferrari fined for allowing their rogue employee pass on this information?

Because Ferrari were the victim.

How would it be justice to fine the victim? How were Ferrari to benefit from the actions of their rogue employee?
7th January 2010, 13:56
pino

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

Did you actually read his comment about me being suited as a policeman in a dictatorship and why single out me, especially as I did not insult him, but rather attacked his post regarding me?

Yes I did read his comment that's why I posted a request to everyone, to quit personal comments/attacks...did you actually read that ?
7th January 2010, 17:56
ioan

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Originally Posted by Garry Walker

If Briatore is banned from being involved in F1, he also cannot manage the drivers.

That's the problem. They can not enforce a ban that involves the drivers he is managing.
They either need all the drivers to give up on Briatore management or change the sanction to something that doesn't involve the drivers.

Anyway I doubt that any team would hire him as well as I doubt that a new team run by him would get a place on the grid, if he was to start a team.
7th January 2010, 17:58
ioan

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Originally Posted by tamburello

Because Ferrari were the victim.

How would it be justice to fine the victim? How were Ferrari to benefit from the actions of their rogue employee?

Everything is possible in the McLaren fan parallel 'reality'. ;)

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