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3rd January 2010, 18:27
WRCS14

I initially thought wow he was quite the hero to attempt this jump. Then I seen some other youtube videos of him practicing on dirt moving the ramp back a little further each time. He even destroyed one car practicing on dirt. Then towards the end he was testing over dirt on a full scale jump with the scaffolded ramp to land on.
On the night all travis had to do was match his terminal ramp speed and throtle position and the jump was a sucess. There is now way I would ever attempt anything like this but its kinda lost some of its shine for me since all he was doing was repeating something he had already done probably a couple of times. And at that Im sure they have serious computers to test all of the above too.
My vision of true dare devil is some one who tries for a record and hopes that it will turn out ok, kinda like Evil Knievel I guess, when he jumped the buses in wembley stadium he knew he wasnt gonna make it but still went for it :) I dont think Travis has the same frame of mind.
3rd January 2010, 19:15
cali

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Originally Posted by Tomi

This is for sure true, every country that produce international level rally drivers, has also healty national series with competition, to become a rallydriver is not just a desition, it takes years and years of practise and tough competition, its not always so easy it might look, but it can be done, if you look for instance at norway or estonia 15 years back their rallying was not much to talk about, but today they are both up there.

For us it was a bit different, coming from USSR, no money etc. Rallying has been popular here for ages and it just took some time for people to get wealthy. And we have had very good drivers before as well, but they did not had a chance to go abroad and when they did, the machinery was too outdated.

But otherwise You are right, we have a quite good series :)
3rd January 2010, 19:35
Tomi

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Originally Posted by cali

For us it was a bit different, coming from USSR, no money etc. Rallying has been popular here for ages and it just took some time for people to get wealthy. And we have had very good drivers before as well, but they did not had a chance to go abroad and when they did, the machinery was too outdated.

But otherwise You are right, we have a quite good series :)

Yes thats true, but the point is it takes time to build a good national series, it does not happen by snapping fingers and its there.
Estonian series is good and important to our youngsters too, almost everyones first international rally is in Estonia and first international WRC is usually in Sweden.
3rd January 2010, 21:21
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by Brother John

Pastrana is absolutely not ready for WRC rally. :D

of course he is he jumped 299 meters and has a big number of clicks on youtube and thats what WRC needs... more clicks !!!

I mean Kimi is the most exciting thing in the WRC this year and of course of all times so 1 million clicks is guaranteed, if block comes we have at least 300.000 clicks more and if pastrana comes the number of clicks could be amazing....can you imagine if the italian clown sponsor kid comes too ?? my god...the number of clicks will bring tears to my eyes....
3rd January 2010, 21:23
Tomi

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

of course he is he jumped 299 meters and has a big number of clicks on youtube and thats what WRC needs... more clicks !!!

I mean Kimi is the most exciting thing in the WRC this year and of course of all times so 1 million clicks is guaranteed, if block comes we have at least 300.000 clicks more and if pastrana comes the number of clicks could be amazing....can you imagine if the italian clown sponsor kid comes too ?? my god...the number of clicks will bring tears to my eyes....

very good, lol
4th January 2010, 10:04
janneppi

I'm more impressed what Pastrana did with a three wheeler. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kh7d...eature=related
4th January 2010, 12:40
JAM

Travis and Red Bull Subaru were seen for more people with this jump than Sebastien Loeb and Citroen with his WRC title.

The reason is obvious, this jump was broadcasted all around the world in all TV stations. Loeb's title was broadcasted only in a few tv stations (the ones who had contract wirh ISC)... This was really good to rallying, because Travis was in a rallycar, and he could had been in any kind of car to do this.

What upsets me is this ecocentric sprit form rally people. Guys, WRC is not the center of world! Wake up guys!!

If was Loeb doing this, maybe a lot of people would know who is Sebastien Loeb, but as was Pastrana, people lnows that an crazy american made tha spectacular jump. As the portuguese tv station said "Travis Pastrana, the american rally champion, break a wold record....."
4th January 2010, 13:21
N.O.T

Click Click Click !!!!

so the solution is to turn Loeb into a sponsor boy clown like all those american and italian jokes.....yes i agree.

More Clicks now.....
4th January 2010, 13:43
Josti

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Originally Posted by JAM

Travis and Red Bull Subaru were seen for more people with this jump than Sebastien Loeb and Citroen with his WRC title.

The reason is obvious, this jump was broadcasted all around the world in all TV stations. Loeb's title was broadcasted only in a few tv stations (the ones who had contract wirh ISC)... This was really good to rallying, because Travis was in a rallycar, and he could had been in any kind of car to do this.

Are you sure? Do you have figures? This hasn't been broadcasted overhere as far as I can remember. And the argument is not really about TV figures (or "clicks" as quoted from N.O.T.). It's the general misconception of certain people about the sport we know as rallying.

You're reasoning why this is "good for rallying" is so lame JAM. "Because he was in a rallycar, but it could have been any kind of car" ...right, so what's the difference if it shouldn't necessarily be related to rallying in the first place?

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Originally Posted by JAM

What upsets me is this ecocentric sprit form rally people. Guys, WRC is not the center of world! Wake up guys!!

I don't think you really followed the thread good enough.

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Originally Posted by JAM

If was Loeb doing this, maybe a lot of people would know who is Sebastien Loeb, but as was Pastrana, people lnows that an crazy american made tha spectacular jump. As the portuguese tv station said "Travis Pastrana, the american rally champion, break a wold record....."

There's not much else you can expect from Travis, we're used to it, but if Loeb was doing this, it would simply get on my nerves (luckily in this case, Loeb is not a showman in heart). Even though it looks spectacular to see an Impreza flying, this stunt was very calculated as some said before, there's no way he wasn't going to make it.

And wasn't Travis Pastrana a "World Champion"? :p
4th January 2010, 18:07
JAM

I don't expect nothing from Pastrana, for me the question is not the driver, but the promotion of WRC.

Do you want figures? Do you think that the majority of TV news around the world didn't notice that? In Portugal we have 3 main TV channels, usually one of them broadcast lite reports form WRC events, but this time two of them broadcasted a report about this jump.

And you? Do you have figures to prove that i'm wrong?!? :D

One thing is sure. All USA saw it, and more than half of Europe also. Usually WRC is seen by ahlef of europeans and only a few americans. Globaly, this jump had for sure more viewers that WRC events. A friend of mine who work in Zuhai told me that saw it in China TV!!!

I want real rallying, but we need this kind of entertainment to promote the real rallying near the ones that don't usually see rallies. If WRC wants to grow, ISC needs much more promotion than we had at the moment. This is the central point.

But ok, when ISC replaced Eurosport by MotorsTV, we understand that they don't want more viewers...

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