Iraq: U.S. definitely was NOT out for oil.

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Originally Posted by tinchote

What I don't see mentioned here as a cause of the war is the fact that the USA need to be in war because they need to keep their huge military industry running. Lost of votes to be lost if many weapons' factories start laying people off.

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They don't need Uncle Sam to be in a war. Lots of proxy wars and violence around the globe.

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Originally Posted by tinchote

What I don't see mentioned here as a cause of the war is the fact that the USA need to be in war because they need to keep their huge military industry running. Lost of votes to be lost if many weapons' factories start laying people off.

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Really?
So all the wars going on today in which the participants are using AK's and other Russian equipment is just a coincidence?

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Really?
So all the wars going on today in which the participants are using AK's and other Russian equipment is just a coincidence?

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Ssssh...don't point out the most popular weapon on the planet is a Kalishnokov, the weapon of choice to every underdog terrorist network in the 3rd world.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Ssssh...don't point out the most popular weapon on the planet is a Kalishnokov, the weapon of choice to every underdog terrorist network in the 3rd world.

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Because the Russians gave them away like candy to spoiled children. Even today an New AK costs less than $150 Wholesale. A new M-4 costs over $800 wholesale.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Because the Russians gave them away like candy to spoiled children. Even today an New AK costs less than $150 Wholesale. A new M-4 costs over $800 wholesale.

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I knew that. Just is evidence of the lie that you Yanks are the only ones in the military supply to start wars game.

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

The US kept troops over there mainly through the Cold War as a deterrent. They are still there today for that reason, and because the Japanese government WANTS them there. If they didn't, they wouldn't BE there.......

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It would appear that the Japanese government doesn't want US bases on Okinawa anymore, but the US won't leave:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...section=justin

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I knew that. Just is evidence of the lie that you Yanks are the only ones in the military supply to start wars game.

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Seems that making AK 47's is very good business! Isn't that what life is all about, making money and spreading it around so we can all buy our 'made in the PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA' knick knacks?

http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Factories.php


Even companies in the US are selling these weapons and unless I'm mistaken some are even made in the US! Now that is capitalism at it's best!

http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Manufacturers.php#akusa

I really hope they are paying royalties to poor old Mr Kalashnikov (http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/). :)


http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Manufacturers.php

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Why? Well American companies just got spanked by Russia and China for the rights to suck out some oil from Iraq. I just find it sad and really demoralizing that two nations that were strictly opposed to the war in Iraq now control Iraq's oil output for the next 2 decades.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2009121...08599194878700

U.S. government is still providing security for Iraq. Not only are America's competitors being protected by American armed forces, but they are being given a hand up and will inevitable gain all the profits. Unbelievable!

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1. America had no business in Iraq, yet they started a war there. I feel no sympathy at all.

2. America has made billions from the war in Iraq and will make more in the future. Wars are big business.

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Originally Posted by henners88

The US do have quite an extensive customer list:

Taiwan
Australia
UK (although we contribute too)
Israel
Uzbekistan
Singapore
Japan
Saudi Arabia
Egypt
Kuwait
United Arab Emirates
Algeria
Pakistan
India
Afghanistan
South Africa
Brazil
Chille.. etc etc I won't list them all...

It has been confirmed that the US supplies arms to 18 countries out of the 25 major conflicts occurring around the globe at present.. :)

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Only 18? Obama is going to ruin our economy.
BTW Would it be possible to show us exactly how this is confirmed? Can you reveal your source?
Oh and of the 25 how many are supplied arms by Russia?

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Originally Posted by Camelopard

Seems that making AK 47's is very good business! Isn't that what life is all about, making money and spreading it around so we can all buy our 'made in the PEOPLES REPUBLIC OF CHINA' knick knacks?

http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Factories.php


Even companies in the US are selling these weapons and unless I'm mistaken some are even made in the US! Now that is capitalism at it's best!

http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Manufacturers.php#akusa

I really hope they are paying royalties to poor old Mr Kalashnikov (http://kalashnikov.guns.ru/). :)


http://www.ak-47.us/AK47_Manufacturers.php

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Mr. Kalishnikov can sue for copyright infringment in the US, he wouldn't get anything from the Chinese but the courts in the US would give him some love.

As for this fiction the US is the only nation in the arms business, may I remind you little innocent Belgium has done alright, with their FN being used all over the world. Canada, a country not renowned for arms is also big in arms supply. Many nations besides the US make money off of wars, and while the US makes a good buck, they are near or at the top in the supply of Cars, computers, and a gazillions of other products. To somehow condemn them for selling arms to countries around the world is throwing stones in glass houses for many people, espeically in places like Canada or the UK, not to mention elsewhere. Heck...should we condemn the Finns for Nokia Cell phones because one is used in a car bomb to help detonate it? Let's not get silly.....