Renault to quit F1?

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Originally Posted by UltimateDanGTR

i will sit on the fence on whether renault will quit or not, i have no idea on that.

but i do believe renault MUST stay in F1. they are a great part of the sport, despite the farce of singapore 08. Honda and Toyota-they quit because they had never been champions and they weren;t doing good enough. BMW were rising to the forefront before a tough year this year was used as an excuse to quit. quite frankly that one was stupid but the other 2 were understandable.

Renault are great in Formula 1, with the best engines in the mid 90s, and then double world champions in 05 and 06. DOUBLE WORLD CHAMPIONS. renault have the know how and pedigree to win, they've proved that, and IMO, quitting F1 would be pointless.

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Briatore has the know-how, not Renault.

That they are postponing an announcement is a negative development in coporate terms because it usually contains frantic legal activity seeking an out from contractual agreemenents.

Robert Kubica should be on the hotline to Mclaren. Renault's days as a winning team even if they stay are done.

Teams come and go from f1 over time and they always will and others will replace them. Its natural and termed creative destruction.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Eastern Europe is the future of car production for the non BMW's, Mercedes and Audi's.

The Fiat's coming out of the Tychy plant in Poland are well built and cheap labour means more profits.

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We've got lotsa stuff coming out of China too. Don't know if there are any Renaults or what their quality is like.

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

Renault is French ioan.

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Really?! I thought they were Australian! :rolleyes:
Go figure I only lived 10 years in France. :\

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Originally Posted by Dylan H

He sacked Renault staff. Many of them were French, living in France and all.

Ghosn is a Renault man, why do you think he's called Le Costcutter and not Costcutter-san?

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I doubt they will let him increase the number of French chomeurs without a huge social movement and opposition of the politicians.

I'm really looking forward to see that happen given the fragil social climate in France because of the crisis.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Eastern Europe is the future of car production for the non BMW's, Mercedes and Audi's.

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Don't be so sure, has had a factory in Hungary for 10 years now.
Mercedes is also building one in Hungary.

How long will BMW and Porsche resist before going that route?

And especially how long before Eastern Europe will be considered to pricey and they'll move to western Asia?

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Originally Posted by ioan

And especially how long before Eastern Europe will be considered to pricey and they'll move to western Asia?

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Not very likely, but mainly because Ukraine has three borders (Ural, Afghanistan & the Middle East) and Blue has 16 armies in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
Grey could probably move some of it's pieces into Ural and that would stop Blue's continent bonus, but then again Blue is forced to turn in three cards because it has seven.

Blue is better off invading Southern Europe and then Egypt.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Not very likely, but mainly because Ukraine has three borders (Ural, Afghanistan & the Middle East) and Blue has 16 armies in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
Grey could probably move some of it's pieces into Ural and that would stop Blue's continent bonus, but then again Blue is forced to turn in three cards because it has seven.

Blue is better off invading Southern Europe and then Egypt.

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:rotflmao: What IN the hell you talking about? :rotflmao:

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Originally Posted by N. Jones

:rotflmao: What IN the hell you talking about? :rotflmao:

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:rotflmao: You are right - Your post after reading the post you are answering makes it hilarious!!

Thanks!!!

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Originally Posted by ioan

Really?! I thought they were Australian! :rolleyes:
Go figure I only lived 10 years in France. :\



I doubt they will let him increase the number of French chomeurs without a huge social movement and opposition of the politicians.

I'm really looking forward to see that happen given the fragil social climate in France because of the crisis.

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Ioan, please learn a little about Ghosn and look more carefully into France's industrial relations. Your posts indicate you know little yet you talk as if you know all about it.

I also find it interesting that you think that its easier or causes less trouble to sack people in Japan, the land of lifetime employment, than it is in France. I also find it interesting that you seem unaware that Ghosn has sacked lots of French people, is doing so right now and will continue to do so in the future.

Finally, do you think the French government cares more about Renault's wellbeing than it does about the employment prospects of a few thousand Frenchmen, particularly when it owns a stake in Renault itself and is seeking to reform employment regulations in France particularly with respect to making it easier for French companies to hire and sack staff? Sarkozy loves people like Ghosn, he'll let him do what he likes.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Not very likely, but mainly because Ukraine has three borders (Ural, Afghanistan & the Middle East) and Blue has 16 armies in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
Grey could probably move some of it's pieces into Ural and that would stop Blue's continent bonus, but then again Blue is forced to turn in three cards because it has seven.

Blue is better off invading Southern Europe and then Egypt.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Not very likely, but mainly because Ukraine has three borders (Ural, Afghanistan & the Middle East) and Blue has 16 armies in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
Grey could probably move some of it's pieces into Ural and that would stop Blue's continent bonus, but then again Blue is forced to turn in three cards because it has seven.

Blue is better off invading Southern Europe and then Egypt.

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Absolutely brilliant board game. Love it.

8 games, 6 victories :)