When did Sordo let Loeb pass him or when did Sordo took intentionally penalties?? :eek: :rolleyes: I do not remember... i'm curious, can someone refresh my memory?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
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When did Sordo let Loeb pass him or when did Sordo took intentionally penalties?? :eek: :rolleyes: I do not remember... i'm curious, can someone refresh my memory?Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
And you should ready my post n. 46. Like A.F.F said, you are here just to bash the drivers you don't like with your tired sick dog -phrases.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
You don't remember Citroens slowing down to get better road positions?Quote:
Originally Posted by cali
And no, it wasn't as bad as what Ford did but they used tactics as well.
That's not what cali said. He said that Sordo has not slowed down this year to let Seb through. Which if i remember right is correct.
Yes, i understand You completely. Ford has done this as well. But this is sort of a another case, 2 rallies on a row when a second driver slows down + now also Latvala frm Stobart takes penalties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodeye
I do not remember that Citroen has used this sort of tactics this year. Maybe they would've done this as well when situation would've been opposite. We never know.
But accusing Citroen to pull tactics as this..... :eek:
Like some smarter guys in the past have said: " Best defence is attack!". Aren't you DJ attacking Citroen without a reason to defend Ford??
Correct. Also on Norway and Germany 2007 they didn't swap Bosse-Mikko. Which basicly made Bosse lose driver title (together with the two Japan-Ireland errors).Quote:
Originally Posted by jacko
I wasn't smiling, until now. :) Yes, Citroën played tactics this year but wow, it's a long shot as it has nothing to see with my initial post (#10) talking about team nationality.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
Anyway, after digging it a bit, i now understand your humourus tongue in cheek. Sarcastic as you could expect from a Finn, i like it :up: .
Something different now. Like other people have pointed out, this is a radical change of tactics by Ford MSport.
Even though Wilson is due to provide solid results, it's clear that Ford Company has increased the pressure on MSport management.
Much more aggressive tactics looking out for all possible opportunities to bag even what could eventually be a fatal single point.
Because the WRC audience is so poor, if they, accidentally, happen to win one or both titles, they don't care about a small portion of fans who know how badly they did get them.
Nothing to compare with the economic impact of a "World Champions, 3 in a row", everywhere, advertising, stickers in the show rooms... The Ford glory for the mass !
Still unsportive and not an excuse though but simply their attempt to sell cars in a certain world conjuncture. The drivers are then caught between the Scylla and Charybdis to acheive this goal.
I don't watch the DTM much at all so I may be wrong, but aren't intra-team tactics also rife there between one manufacturers' different teams (ie. those running 2008, 2007, 2006 cars)? I always had the impression that the M1/M2 system in the WRC was introduced for a similar reason as was so in DTM; to increase the number of cars in the field when the number of participating works manufacturer squads is low, as was the case in the WRC in '06.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Technically, I do not see why "Ford cannot have it two ways" either (to MikeD)? An internet message board community won't stop them.
I'm not too fussed about whether a rule is introduced against team orders wherever they exactly resemble this situation or not. They have been a perennial part of motorsport in whichever form they assume. And as F1 has shown, anti-team orders rules are difficult to police. I don't recall Ferrari being punished after Brazil '07 for example. Ditto with achieving 'genuine independence' if there are any other WRC Fords or Citroens on the entry list at all. To me, these situations are just a fact of life in any motorsport, that's all.
I made a similar point earlier in this/ or another thread. Joe Public won't know what has happened - unlike in F1 were anything 'funny' is discussed in the papers/TV/Radio ad nauseum. One of the 'advantages' of being a minority sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Team orders are part of Motorsport - we all know that. And yes, it's hard to prove when they've happened - and therefore hard to enforce any rulings. However, this was totally blatant - Malcolm told everybody in an interview. How on earth is that allowed?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChickenMcNugget