Kovy should've won the race?

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Originally Posted by wedge

Not the first time Kovy's been beaten by drivers in second tier teams:

France - beaten to podium by Trulli

Valencia - beaten to podium by Kubica

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It's also not the first time Massa was beaten by 2nd tier drivers as well. Kubica, Alonso, and Heidfeld all started behind Massa in Italy, yet finished ahead.

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Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1

So you say. Why is it so important to put them in order? Whatever the reasons for a driver signing or not, the fact remains that Kovalainen is a McLaren driver.

Heikki clearly looked disappointed at Monza. He probably felt it was a missed opportunity, particularly as he had outperformed the championship contenders in qualifying. He knows he is in a car capable of winning, and so far he's done ok, but should be doing better.

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sorry but Ion's right in this case.

It was to counter what a previous paster said as well as to clearly lay out the though process in obtaining Heikke.

And about Heikke feeling disappointed. so what. I feel disapointed every time I get beaten by the #1 guy in my tennis league. It's an honest feeling, but that doesn't negate the fact that the guy's better than me and always seems to get the better of me. I can be disappointed all I want but unless I improve my game, those new racquets that I bought and k-swiss shoes and all the "better equipment" I seem to have over him, is still no match for his talent..or my lack of it in comparison.
Heikke had a far superior car and should have done more with it than holding station ( and losing ground) over the entire race to Sebastian Vettel in an STR

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Originally Posted by ioan

That's the order in which they were offered a contract by McLaren, according to the press (and I'm not talking about BILD here just in case you are wiling to go down that route).
Let's make it simple:
1.If Rosberg and Williams would have accepted than it would have been game over for Vettel and Heikki.
2.If then Vettel and Red Bull would have picked up and signed the contract than Heikki would have been at maximum a test driver this season.



Yes he is, and on top of that he's the weakest driver they had for a very long period! :laugh:

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agreed

2nd was the best Heikki could expect. Had it been dry, Heikki woulda won. As it was, the T.Rosso was faster.

Anyone that slags off Heikki is an idiot!

a: he doesn't cheat (aka Lewis)

b: he doesn't drive diry (aka Lewis)

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

No, I didn't follow it on Live Timing but relied on my eyes and the timing on TV :p

Care to post a link so I better understand where you're coming from?

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http://www.formula1.com/

Go to services, and select Live Timing on the sub menu.

http://www.formula1.com/services/live_timing/

You will then need to register.

This will give you the position of every car, the lap times, sector times and gaps between the cars for each lap for the entire race. It also gives you when any car does its best lap of the race to that lap, and fastest lap and sector times.

You can also select sub menus on the side of the grid for weather and lap charts.

It also tells you when cars are in the pits and and how much fuel the car has taken.

If you are watching the race on TV, then you will need a lap top and wi fi.

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Originally Posted by Speedworx

2nd was the best Heikki could expect. Had it been dry, Heikki woulda won. As it was, the T.Rosso was faster.

Anyone that slags off Heikki is an idiot!

a: he doesn't cheat (aka Lewis)

b: he doesn't drive diry (aka Lewis)

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You forgot wooda's pals shooda and kooda.

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Originally Posted by Speedworx

2nd was the best Heikki could expect. Had it been dry, Heikki woulda won. As it was, the T.Rosso was faster.

Anyone that slags off Heikki is an idiot!

a: he doesn't cheat (aka Lewis)

b: he doesn't drive diry (aka Lewis)

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(a) He cheat's?

(b) And Lewis is certainly not a despicable or disgusting driver! Perhaps one of the best, ever. (before anyone goes off I'm not a LH fan)

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Originally Posted by truefan72

agreed

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:eek: What? Wait a moment, somethings wrong with the script!

Just kidding! ;)
Good to see that we agree sometimes, even if we often don't! :)

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Vettel qualified better, he raced better and he won. End of Story!!

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Too boring. Too many facts. I like shooda wooda kooda much better. It is a story that never quits repeating itself. Nothing like a warm fire, a good shooda wooda kooda book and a mug of koolaid.

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Originally Posted by jjanicke

It's also not the first time Massa was beaten by 2nd tier drivers as well. Kubica, Alonso, and Heidfeld all started behind Massa in Italy, yet finished ahead.

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At least the Ferraris have a decent excuse, their cars doesn't work as well in the wet.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Too boring. Too many facts. I like shooda wooda kooda much better. It is a story that never quits repeating itself. Nothing like a warm fire, a good shooda wooda kooda book and a mug of koolaid.

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One of Murray Walkers favourite sayings is "F1 spelt backwards is IF".