Rally History (part III)

In addition to complete data of the old rally, if you agree on the forum send the data in my possession (for the years 50 and 60) and you and others you can add or correct any errors.

1950 Sestriere 21- 22 January
Started 132 Arrived ? 2910 km
1° Emilio Christillin / Sandro Fiorio Lancia Aurelia GT
2° Emanuele Nasi / ? ? Fiat 1500 E
3° Emanuele Sartorio / ? ? Fiat 500 C
4° ? Ymot / ? ? Panhard Dyna
5° ? Locatelli / ? ? Studebacker
6° Ken Wharton / JJ. Langelaan Ford Pilot V8
7° ? ?
8° ? ?
9° ? ?
10° ? ? ecc...

1950 Middnight Sun 15-18 June
Started 126 Arrived 113
1° Carl Cederbaum / Bertil Sohlberg BMW 327/328
2° Thedde Svensson / Svante Tillberg HRG 1500
3° Joachim Fustenberg / ? ? Porsche 356 Coupè
4° Rolf Mellde / Ragnar Carlsson Saab 92 Sport
5° T. Nilsson / K. Andersson Citroen 11
6° N. Sagemen / O. Sagemen MGA 1100
7° E. Persson / J. Ericson Volvo PV 444
8° E. Jonsson / ? ? Fiat 1100 TV
9° Cecilia Koskull / Christina porsche 356 Coupè
10° Arne Hemmingsson / Carl Jacobsen Austin Healey
11° G. Handenberg / M. Fustenberg Porsche 356 Coupè
12° ? ?
13° ? ?
14° ? ?
15° ? ?
ecc......

My questions : is correct or wrong ? have you other information to add ?
Thanks in advance Regards
Dario

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dario

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DIMI44

Thanks DIMI44
I just want to know the position of Meyer ( DKW ) and if there are other famous drivers classified. you confirm 63 arrived ?

Best regards Dario

---

---

About MEYER.
according to " GOLTEN ANNIVERSARY OF ACROPOLIS RALLY"
24.MEJER -FILIPPOU /DKW Sport

According to " 50 YEARS ACROPOLIS RALLY"
22.MEIDR - FILIPPOU / DKW

Both of then have 63 arrivals .

L. MATUSSIER
HAQUET
MALERIC
ZIMMER (!!? is "room" in german isn'it )
BEBIS
DOUTRE
KUHN
PRETRE
J.BAFFIE
J.LAMERIE
CARDANOT
P.COMINGEN
BICKNELL
HOCQUARD
BICHNELL
BOZIC

I dont know if someone of those drivers was famous in 1956.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by DIMI44

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dario

About MEYER.
according to " GOLTEN ANNIVERSARY OF ACROPOLIS RALLY"
24.MEJER -FILIPPOU /DKW Sport

According to " 50 YEARS ACROPOLIS RALLY"
22.MEIDR - FILIPPOU / DKW

Both of then have 63 arrivals .

L. MATUSSIER
HAQUET
MALERIC
ZIMMER (!!? is "room" in german isn'it )
BEBIS
DOUTRE
KUHN
PRETRE
J.BAFFIE
J.LAMERIE
CARDANOT
P.COMINGEN
BICKNELL
HOCQUARD
BICHNELL
BOZIC

I dont know if someone of those drivers was famous in 1956.

---

---

Ok Thanks very much DIMI
Best regards
Dario

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dario

In addition to complete data of the old rally, if you agree on the forum send the data in my possession (for the years 50 and 60) and you and others you can add or correct any errors.

1950 Sestriere 21- 22 January
Started 132 Arrived ? 2910 km
1° Emilio Christillin / Sandro Fiorio Lancia Aurelia GT
2° Emanuele Nasi / ? ? Fiat 1500 E
3° Emanuele Sartorio / ? ? Fiat 500 C
4° ? Ymot / ? ? Panhard Dyna
5° ? Locatelli / ? ? Studebacker
6° Ken Wharton / JJ. Langelaan Ford Pilot V8
7° ? ?
8° ? ?
9° ? ?
10° ? ? ecc...

1950 Middnight Sun 15-18 June
Started 126 Arrived 113
1° Carl Cederbaum / Bertil Sohlberg BMW 327/328
2° Thedde Svensson / Svante Tillberg HRG 1500
3° Joachim Fustenberg / ? ? Porsche 356 Coupè
4° Rolf Mellde / Ragnar Carlsson Saab 92 Sport
5° T. Nilsson / K. Andersson Citroen 11
6° N. Sagemen / O. Sagemen MGA 1100
7° E. Persson / J. Ericson Volvo PV 444
8° E. Jonsson / ? ? Fiat 1100 TV
9° Cecilia Koskull / Christina porsche 356 Coupè
10° Arne Hemmingsson / Carl Jacobsen Austin Healey
11° G. Handenberg / M. Fustenberg Porsche 356 Coupè
12° ? ?
13° ? ?
14° ? ?
15° ? ?
ecc......

My questions : is correct or wrong ? have you other information to add ?
Thanks in advance Regards
Dario

---

On the '50 Sestriere:

- The winner's Lancia, according to my database, would be an Aprilia. Anyway, it can't be an Aurelia car this model wasn't in the market until may 1950 in his first version and 1951 the GT variant, as far as I know.


On the '50 Midnight Sun:

- Prinz Joachim zu Fürstenberg's codriver was the Count Berckheim, while his Porsche was a Cabriolet model
- The Saab 92, did not exist with model denomination Sport, as far as I know
- N. & O. Sagemen, would be Nils & Olof Segeman, and his car would be an MG 1100-engined, not an MGA, 'cause this model did not exist back in 1950
- Arne Heminggson's car would be a Healey 2400-engined, 'cause the first Austin-Healey, the 100 model, was launched in 1953


Carles.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dario

21° Sipahi / Sipahi BMW 2002 9.59'02"
...
50° Paletta / Raimondo Fiat 124 24.42'01"
Regards Dario

---

Thank you Dario once again. Do you have an entry or start list to that rally? Maybe you have entry or start lists to other Sanremo rallies to share?
Regards
januszsz

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by dario

In addition to complete data of the old rally, if you agree on the forum send the data in my possession (for the years 50 and 60) and you and others you can add or correct any errors.
1950 Middnight Sun 15-18 June
Started 126 Arrived 113
1° Carl Cederbaum / Bertil Sohlberg BMW 327/328
2° Thedde Svensson / Svante Tillberg HRG 1500
3° Joachim Fustenberg / ? ? Porsche 356 Coupè
4° Rolf Mellde / Ragnar Carlsson Saab 92 Sport
5° T. Nilsson / K. Andersson Citroen 11
6° N. Sagemen / O. Sagemen MGA 1100
7° E. Persson / J. Ericson Volvo PV 444
8° E. Jonsson / ? ? Fiat 1100 TV
9° Cecilia Koskull / Christina porsche 356 Coupè
10° Arne Hemmingsson / Carl Jacobsen Austin Healey
11° G. Handenberg / M. Fustenberg Porsche 356 Coupè
My questions : is correct or wrong ? have you other information to add ?
Thanks in advance Regards
Dario

---

I can add few first names to that:
1950 Middnight Sun 15-18 June
5° THURE Nilsson / K.V. Andersson Citroen 11
6° NILS Sagemen / OLOF Sagemen MGA 1100
7° ELIMAR Persson / JOHN Ericson Volvo PV 444
8° ERIC Jonsson / ? ? Fiat 1100 TV
Regards
januszsz

It should be SEGEMAN above (my mistake, sorry)
januszsz

As Carles has already posted, a Healey at that time would not be an Austin Healey. Probably a Healey saloon or Healey "Silverstone" sports car with a Riley engine. The MG may have been an MG "YA" saloon.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Carles Bosch 02

On the '50 Sestriere:

- The winner's Lancia, according to my database, would be an Aprilia. Anyway, it can't be an Aurelia car this model wasn't in the market until may 1950 in his first version and 1951 the GT variant, as far as I know.



Carles.

---

Carles , Fal , Januszsz
Thanks you Very much for your help.
Best regards
Dario

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by januszsz

Thank you Dario once again. Do you have an entry or start list to that rally? Maybe you have entry or start lists to other Sanremo rallies to share?
Regards
januszsz

---

The entry list of 1973 no, other vintages is possible, I have to check and you know I will.
Regards Dario