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16th July 2008, 21:09
Wim_Impreza

I am also a Belgian and I must say that I was never impressed about Loix in the Mitsu period. He made too much mistakes and was never able to fight for the victory in that years. In the Hyundai, he showed some speed and especially in Sweden with a broken feet.

It is a shame that a real rally legend as Grönholm is compared by Loix, who has never won a rally in the WRC. Loix is also not so fast as I expected in IRC this year. Last year, it was the car in IRC, in Condroz he retired without a good reason.
16th July 2008, 21:14
wwbroe

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Why dont you tell, instead of running behind the back of a dead driver, you are the one who make the accusations!

Well, the former Mitsu testdriver certainly had something to do with it, together with a certain manager that you Finn's know certainly very well. He is the one that makes or brakes careers. But to me it is not all that important anymore, i enjoy IRC as i do enjoy WRC, alltough i enjoyed the WRC a lot more in the "old" days. That is the main reason that i am visiting more IRC events now, instead off WRC events. I am still going but not as much as i used to be. For me it is not all that important, i was just reacting on something Finny wrote about Loix, thats all.
16th July 2008, 21:20
Tomi

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Originally Posted by wwbroe

Well, the former Mitsu testdriver certainly had something to do with it, together with a certain manager that you Finn's know certainly very well. He is the one that makes or brakes careers. But to me it is not all that important anymore, i enjoy IRC as i do enjoy WRC, alltough i enjoyed the WRC a lot more in the "old" days. That is the main reason that i am visiting more IRC events now, instead off WRC events. I am still going but not as much as i used to be. For me it is not all that important, i was just reacting on something Finny wrote about Loix, thats all.

Again you refer to that Lampi and Jouhki has done something, but not what, also you could tell us what is teamboss Cowans part in this conspiracy, and the most important, what did Mitsu as a team benefit by sabotage the other driver.
17th July 2008, 04:49
jparker

Why did Finns started to b**t IRC right from the begining? Do they think rallying belongs to them and everything in rally has to evolve around them?
Rallying is a sport with too many different aspects, everyone is free to enjoy the parts he likes most. IRC may not be better, but it's different and it has its audience. I hope we can agree at least on that one.
17th July 2008, 05:52
RS

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Originally Posted by Tomi

Again you refer to that Lampi and Jouhki has done something, but not what, also you could tell us what is teamboss Cowans part in this conspiracy, and the most important, what did Mitsu as a team benefit by sabotage the other driver.

I don't think there was anything malicious to it, simply the Mitsubishi was a very specific car which pretty much only Makinen ad Burns got along with. The results of McRae and Delecour were pretty awful in the post Makinen years.

It had a different transmission set up to the other WRCars and I guess Lampi knew how Makinen liked to drive so it was quite natural for the car to be developed to his taste as a world champion and not the No.2 driver.
17th July 2008, 05:58
RS

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Originally Posted by jparker

Why did Finns started to b**t IRC right from the begining? Do they think rallying belongs to them and everything in rally has to evolve around them?

Something to do with there being no Finnish round, few Finnish drivers and a large amount of asphalt? Of course it can't be a serious championship unless a Finn is winning!

;) Only teasing.
17th July 2008, 07:33
Tomi

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Originally Posted by jparker

Why did Finns started to b**t IRC right from the begining? Do they think rallying belongs to them and everything in rally has to evolve around them?
Rallying is a sport with too many different aspects, everyone is free to enjoy the parts he likes most. IRC may not be better, but it's different and it has its audience. I hope we can agree at least on that one.

Lol, no rallying I think belongs everyone, but the question was, What is currently best - WRC or IRC.
17th July 2008, 07:40
Tomi

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Originally Posted by RS

I don't think there was anything malicious to it, simply the Mitsubishi was a very specific car which pretty much only Makinen ad Burns got along with. The results of McRae and Delecour were pretty awful in the post Makinen years.

It had a different transmission set up to the other WRCars and I guess Lampi knew how Makinen liked to drive so it was quite natural for the car to be developed to his taste as a world champion and not the No.2 driver.

This I have heard too, that because of the transmission there was a delay not many could cope with.
17th July 2008, 08:12
Finni

Yeah first poor-Freddy was trashed by Mitsu and then by Peugeot. Bad, bad manufacturers.

This thread has gone beyond smart discussion. We should probably do own thread about malicious conspracies by Peugeot and Mitsu toward poor little Freddy..
17th July 2008, 09:18
jparker

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Tomi 02:33 17th Jul 08
Lol, no rallying I think belongs everyone, but the question was, What is currently best - WRC or IRC.

Question with no possible answer, but I asked another question and you choose not to answer. When somebody starts bashing something with no particular reason, then questions arise.

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