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26th January 2007, 18:16
Mark in Oshawa

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Originally Posted by Eki

The South Koreans know they would have to fight and kill their cousins in order to liberate them, so I'm not sure if most of them would like to try it..

The South Koreans wouldn't have to do anything if the North Korean Military surrendered. Show them a good meal. North Koreans have no idea of what is going on in the outside world. If they truly knew, the little midget running the show there would be hanging from a lampost.

You cannot defend Kim Il Sung surely???

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Originally Posted by Eki

Burning their oil for electricity would be extremely stupid when they can refine it to gasoline, plastics and other petrochemicals for a higher profit. Finland has a lot of wood to burn, but 30% of its electricity comes from nuclear power. Why? Because nuclear energy is still the cheapest way to produce huge amounts of electricity and it's more friendly to the environment than burning wood or oil..

I agree, nuclear power is more efficient, but the second Iran got their reactor they started enriching Uranium. India also said they wouldn't do any such thing when they bought CANDU reactors from Canada in the 70's yet within a few years they build nuclear weapons. The thing is, Eki, Iran has never given any lip service to the enviromental worries of the planet. Nukes are not always cheaper either. They are not cheap if you pay attention to enviromental impact concerns either. I believe in nuclear power, but in the case of Iran, I know damned well their motives were not in helping the world's enviroment. You might choose to believe that, but you believe in the best intentions of the worst people, and believe the worst intentions of the best people. This is why I argue with you Eki, it is so obvious you have an agenda towards slagging any democratic nation that actually doesn't roll over and play dead when confronted by a dicatorship. You defend dictatorships and their actions , I deplore them.
26th January 2007, 18:19
Mark in Oshawa

I think about this Eki, and I am worried. You ACTUALLY believe the North Koreans are right in any way, shape, or form? IT is a communist/autocratic/dictatorship. In every time that one of them was exposed to democracy, capitalistic ideas and education on a level untainted by outright brainwashing, the people there have not picked up arms, but on the contrary have wanted to join the rest of the civilized world. North Koreans would be no different. It is only you would argue that the South Koreans would invade and enslave them all....or whatever you would believe.

Sometimes I doubt your sanity, but that is ok, it gives me a hobby......
26th January 2007, 19:18
Eki

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

The South Koreans wouldn't have to do anything if the North Korean Military surrendered. Show them a good meal. North Koreans have no idea of what is going on in the outside world. If they truly knew, the little midget running the show there would be hanging from a lampost.

Based on a BBC document I've seen, the North Koreans, at least many of them, may really be so brainwashed that they truly believe that Americans are the cause of all their problems and are out to get them, so I guess many of them wouldn't surrender. The Soviet prisoners of war in Finland have said that they were told never to surrender because the Finns were evil and would torture and kill them in terrible ways. They were genuinely surprised when they were treated even as well as they were.
26th January 2007, 20:34
Hondo

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Originally Posted by Eki

Exactomundo. And IF, and that's still a big IF, Iran is planning to build nuclear weapons and not peaceful nuclear energy as they say, their motive is most likely the same. Both Iran and North Korea saw what happened to Iraq when they didn't have nuclear weapons. That's likely the lesson they learnt.

You do have a valid point there.
26th January 2007, 21:21
janneppi

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I think about this Eki, and I am worried. You ACTUALLY believe the North Koreans are right in any way, shape, or form? IT is a communist/autocratic/dictatorship. In every time that one of them was exposed to democracy, capitalistic ideas and education on a level untainted by outright brainwashing, the people there have not picked up arms, but on the contrary have wanted to join the rest of the civilized world. North Koreans would be no different. It is only you would argue that the South Koreans would invade and enslave them all....or whatever you would believe.

Where in this thread does Eki argue against South Korea, or defends North Korea?
Looking at issues from another angle isn't agreeing with or condoning their viewpoint.
27th January 2007, 00:24
speedy king

The real fools in the world are the ones who feel they can summarise a whole nation in one sentence :dozey:
27th January 2007, 06:52
Hawkmoon

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Originally Posted by speedy king

The real fools in the world are the ones who feel they can summarise a whole nation in one sentence :dozey:

Not a whole nation. Just the few who lead it.
27th January 2007, 07:50
Mark in Oshawa

Janneppi, if Eki said right off the top he thinks The North Koreans are brainwashed fools who are demented, I would have taken what he said more seriously. The problem is Eki continually takes up for the regimes he wouldn't live under by making excuses for their behaviour as if it was justified. If you read what he says, he argues their points with no attempt to put it into context. The only way I know Eki is ashamed of something a regime does is when he comes out and admits it when I get mad at him for defending these guys.

Phrase your arguments better Eki and not automatically put the US as the bad guy, and Maybe I wont bust your chops over it.
27th January 2007, 07:55
Eki

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

I think about this Eki, and I am worried. You ACTUALLY believe the North Koreans are right in any way, shape, or form?

It's not about what I believe, it's about what the North Koreans believe. Many of them probably believe they are right. You can't fake those tears you saw at the funeral of Kim Il Sung. I think it's similar to the Stockholm syndrome:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome
27th January 2007, 09:19
janneppi

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Originally Posted by Mark in Oshawa

Janneppi, if Eki said right off the top he thinks The North Koreans are brainwashed fools who are demented, I would have taken what he said more seriously. The problem is Eki continually takes up for the regimes he wouldn't live under by making excuses for their behaviour as if it was justified. If you read what he says, he argues their points with no attempt to put it into context. The only way I know Eki is ashamed of something a regime does is when he comes out and admits it when I get mad at him for defending these guys.

Phrase your arguments better Eki and not automatically put the US as the bad guy, and Maybe I wont bust your chops over it.

Or perhaps you need to start reading his post more carefully. ;)
Didn't you just yesterday call for respecting others and what they write, even if one doesn't agree with them?

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