'What Would You Change'

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

They would spend it. The cost of a competing for a championship is directly related to the level of desire and prestige to win it. There's no reason for it to cost around half a billion a year to compete in Formula One, but some of the teams want to win the championship bad enough to spend it.

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So your saying that all it takes is money to win in NASCAR? The team with the deepest pocket takes the Cup? :(

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Originally Posted by Saabaru

So your saying that all it takes is money to win in NASCAR? The team with the deepest pocket takes the Cup? :(

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ding,ding,ding

hey you figured it out, but you still need all the right people (look at Toyota's F1 team)

since when is any form of motorsport has the teams not spending more that each for test, and R&D. its in Nascar, F1, WRC, Le Mans, IRL, etc...

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Originally Posted by Saabaru

So your saying that all it takes is money to win in NASCAR? The team with the deepest pocket takes the Cup? :(

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That's what it takes to win in any form of motorsports. Cup is no different.

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Originally Posted by harvick#1

ding,ding,ding

hey you figured it out, but you still need all the right people (look at Toyota's F1 team)

since when is any form of motorsport has the teams not spending more that each for test, and R&D. its in Nascar, F1, WRC, Le Mans, IRL, etc...

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If the field isn’t level and it’s all about research and development, then what’s the point of having these specialties built cars? Why not go more production based like Super Touring cars?

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

That's what it takes to win in any form of motorsports. Cup is no different.

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I was always told NASCAR was different, that’s why all the cars are built the same? I thought one of NASCAR’s main selling points was that anyone could win, that’s why they’ve worked so hard at leveling the playing field (all about the team and not the car)?

Spending the most money is no guarantee of success. However, not spending enough money will guarantee failure.

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Originally Posted by Saabaru

I was always told NASCAR was different, that’s why all the cars are built the same? I thought one of NASCAR’s main selling points was that anyone could win, that’s why they’ve worked so hard at leveling the playing field (all about the team and not the car)?

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Whoever was telling you such things didn't have a clue what they were talking about. I wouldn't listen to anything that person ever said again.

The cars and engines are built by the teams, just like in Formula One and other constructor series. There are tighter parameters than in F1, but the teams still have some lattitude in how the cars and engines are constructed. It would make sense that a team like Hendrick, with around 400 employees (approximately 125 in the engine room alone) would have the number of championships that they have.

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Originally Posted by tstran17_88

A stock car running on french fries interesting? I'm not so sure.

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but aroma from the oil would be a boon to the snack vendors!

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Originally Posted by Lee Roy

Whoever was telling you such things didn't have a clue what they were talking about. I wouldn't listen to anything that person ever said again.

The cars and engines are built by the teams, just like in Formula One and other constructor series. There are tighter parameters than in F1, but the teams still have some lattitude in how the cars and engines are constructed. It would make sense that a team like Hendrick, with around 400 employees (approximately 125 in the engine room alone) would have the number of championships that they have.

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if you're Penske racing, NASCAR opens up your engine for all to see. The bastion of pioneerism it aint, but that aint why I watch nascar.

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Originally Posted by SOD

but aroma from the oil would be a boon to the snack vendors!

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And we'll feel good about ourselves because we are saving the planet one french fry at a time! :D

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Originally Posted by Saabaru

Millions, why? You could take GM’s 6.8 Duramax diesel engine and have it up to a NASCAR’s HP/Torque level for less than $5000. I know they wouldn’t want to use this engine, but the technology has already been developed. All that would need doing is adapting the technology to a NASCAR platform with bio fuel. There is no reason it would cost millions of dollars unless the teams just wanted to spend it. The same thing is happening in the WRC with the conversion to a forced induction S2000 spec car. The FIA wants the cars cost to be reduced from the 1.2 million price tag that they are hovering around right now, down to around the $300000 mark. But the president of the WRC made the remark at a press conference that even if they required the cars to be in the $300000 price range. There is no way to keep the top teams from tearing down the engines and investing another $100000 in them even though it wouldn’t make any difference in the performance.

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Yeah and Ford has the Power Stroke diesel and Dodge has a Cummins diesel...great!

But you seemed to gloss over the fact that biodiesel doesn't run well in cold weather, that the fuel tends to gel. Or doesn't it fit into the argument that NASCAR should become more 'green'?