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Agree that he makes too many mistakes compared to Ogier and specially Loeb. But for me it seems that at the end of the season he has matured and taken a step forward into right direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
PS! If you check Hirvonen's points, someone mistakenly can draw a conclusion that he's one of the rallying gods ;)
JML hasn't done many mistakes this season... Nearly always it's been the car breaking up or team orders. I really hope he could get a trouble-free season next year. If not, apparently it's VW in 2013.
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Originally Posted by tfp
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Originally Posted by cali
My point exactly. Collecting points(4th his lowest position all year) and the occasional win is what he does best. Gronholm knew how to win rally's and got the better of Loeb many times, thats why Hirvonen and Gronholm worked so well togethor IMO, and thats why they secured the manufacturers title against citroen a few seasons ago.
you forget an importan factor.....Hirvonen had Gronholm as team mate back then not Latvala.
If hirvonen played the supporting role to latvala this year as he did with Gronholm everything would be lost for Ford very early in the season.....
:up: agreed. The solution? Bring gronholm back out of retirement :p :Quote:
Originally Posted by n.o.t
or move hirvonen to a team with someone as good as gronholm...or the opposite.
Remind me, how many Championships did Marcus win and how long was he competing before his first championship?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
No driver, no matter how good an engineer, could have made the Focus 07-10 capable of beating the Loeb / C4 combination. From his first podium less than 4 years ago JML has developed such that he has cut out the major crashes and has learnt to drive competitively on tarmac. On gravel he is on a par with both Loeb and Ogier. If the Fiesta had been better prepared for this season then Jari Matti would not have been required to give Mikko undeserved places. WRGB is going to be fascinating, anything but a foregone conclusion.
he was 31 when he entered the WRC...before that he did only finnish championship and selected (very few) rounds of the WRCQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
his experience was FAR less than meekes......
Jari-Mati was all over the place this year as well.... and the times he retired due to bad luck (mechanical) are almost the same with the times he did not retire although he had major offs like Spain on day 1 and Geramny, and France and and and...
As for the pace on tarmac he did indded progress but still lacks in speed compared to Loeb and Ogier.
As for the rally of GB it is indeed a sad thing that the possibility our sport to have a worthless paper champion since the fat talentless italian is very likely....lets hope the proper man wins it.
So we have this year anyway a worthless paper champion also with Loeb. Stop it with discussions about who are bad drivers, the teams are not good with what thye do, and enjoy to go watching the rallys, it does not matter who wins in various rallies.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
It would been better for almost all the rallyfans around the world if we have in WRC a fight with more candidates for the 2011 championship.
Personally I would have like to see a battle for the tittle between Ogier and Latvala this year. Next year? who cares. :s mokin:
At todays GPweek M. Holmes refers to the anxiety at Ford and Prodrive camps for next year. Ford should anounce there decision this month but nothing yet, and Mini program is on hold due to a main sponsor not confirmed yet.