there is no question.He is slow.Admit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
slow compared with his championship rivals.Not with you and me,with Maurin and Nikara.
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there is no question.He is slow.Admit it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
slow compared with his championship rivals.Not with you and me,with Maurin and Nikara.
So what? Yes, slower than Ogier and some others, but for the moment only Ogier seem to matter, and he is not only problem for Ostberg, but for anyone else. Ostberg picks up what the other can't. Who is the winner and who are the loosers?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
If you expect of him to rech Ogier's level some day, will be dissapointed, he never will....
Fast and slow are not everything in rally. So we can say Ostberg is relatively slow but not that he is a bad driver. He is a very good driver, I would say one of the best. Last year was best non VW driver. No one can deny it. Rankings speak for themself, and he also skipped an event.
Said that I get critics toward him. But thhe point is not that he is "slow" the point is that he is a driver with no more to say to the championship. His learning curve is flat, he is happy and comfortable where he is. In a word, he is annoying, unless you are a fan of him since early days.
read again.If after you read again you understand the same,read again and again till you understand what i wrote.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
a driver that he cant win a stage,not a rally,a single stage at his best surface after so many years at wrc ,is slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
he never will win a rally because he was fast.
Nobody said that he is not a good driver.We said that he is slow compared to his rivals.
And thats not something bad,plenty of such drivers for every era.
Tired about the bad ds3 he had to change his driving,tired for the excuses for the new co driver after 3 rallies with him,tired about so many excuses for years.
Are you just talking about this 2016 rally ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Mads won several stages in Mexico in the two seasons (2014 & 2015).
He may have been able to do so again but for having to drive for points with no team-mate back-up...
I did it in many posts, don't really get why is all the critics. The man is doing his job as well as he could and is in better position than faster drivers than him. If there is someone who deserves critics now is Neuville, total dissapoinment for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Ostberg may be "slow and annoying" to some but the facts are he is at the moment one of the best drivers in the WRC. I think it's wrong to blame him for being consistent but unspectacular, just as it's wrong to blame Ogier for being faster and less error prone than the rest. Blame the others who are not beating this "slow" driver on rallies or in the championship. I'm not a fan of Ostberg myself and I don't think he will ever be WDC but he is a solid 2nd driver who brings in points and doesn't wreck cars.
+1, for any team except VW there are no better options. I think we can put Ostberg and Sordo in the same category. Overall they lack a bit of speed to fight for the wins, but they're probably the most reliable drivers of the WRC field (apart from the Seb's) in the last 10 years. They crash maybe once per year and on other occasions they're always scoring championship points if there are no problems with the car.
El chocolate and other roads near Leon today. Can you believe it? http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/03...ebbc817a9d.jpg
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Take this with a pinch of salt. Source is not too much reliable... Maybe a confirmation would be better.