Kimi's future - No racing in 2010?

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4th November 2009, 22:57
christophulus

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

If not, he can take a hike merely on principle of the matter. Of course it's a gamble, but I'd be willing to take Sutil for the following reasons:

1) Since Adrian and Lewis are pals, that pairing is more likely to foster a healthy team spirit.

2) Adrian costs less--WAY less.

3) Adrian is clearly motivated. According to the reports, he wasn't on retainer (but was probably paid by personal sponsors), and this would be his ONLY opportunity to prove that he belongs in F1 and to be able to earn serious F1 dollars.

4) Based on his Monza performance (as well as his Monaco performance two years ago), Adrian has suggested he can handle the pressure of running up front.

5) Adrian knows what it is like to struggle constantly to get more pace out of the car, whereas Kimi has been given good cars throughout his career.

6) Although I'm a Fisi fan, I have to admit Adrian seemed slightly quicker (yes, I know Fisi had more points and that the qualifying tally was 6-6), and if he can hang with a 3-time GP winner, he can be an asset at McLaren.

All good points. It'd probably be a good move for Sutil too, McLaren can develop him better as a driver than Force India could - Hamilton has certainly matured this year - and he's at least as fast as Kovalainen was, although not in the same league as Raikkonen.

It's a handy B-option anyway. Plus him bringing some sponsorship wouldn't go amiss :)
5th November 2009, 02:41
markabilly

Okay let me put it this way, you want to drive an F1 car in 2010, and the price is that you have to give up something like 10, 20 million dollars (the drop of $30M from the ferrari paycheck being made up by whatever he gets driving for someone else such as mac)---$10M to 20M, would any of you give up ten million or more????

esp. if u already have one WDC to your name?????
5th November 2009, 02:47
gloomyDAY

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Originally Posted by markabilly

Okay let me put it this way, you want to drive an F1 car in 2010, and the price is that you have to give up something like 10, 20 million dollars (the drop of $30M from the ferrari paycheck being made up by whatever he gets driving for someone else such as mac)---$10M to 20M, would any of you give up ten million or more????

esp. if u already have one WDC to your name?????

Wait, so Ferrari bought out Kimi's contract with the stipulation that his pay from next year's salary would be slashed if Kimi chose to drive for another team? I think I'm missing something here....
5th November 2009, 08:07
DexDexter

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Originally Posted by I am evil Homer

You never know...going to McLaren might be the making of Sutil, sometimes a driver and team/car just click. Happened to Frentzen at Jordan and I never thought he was a particualrly outstanding driver, just made the most of what he had at the time.

Why on earth would Mclaren want to take Sutil who was outraced or qualified many times this year by Fisi, who, it must be said, isn't particularly convincing driver these days.

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Originally Posted by keysersoze

6) Although I'm a Fisi fan, I have to admit Adrian seemed slightly quicker (yes, I know Fisi had more points and that the qualifying tally was 6-6), and if he can hang with a 3-time GP winner, he can be an asset at McLaren.

And how has Fisi raced recently in the Ferrari compared to let's say Kobayashi, another driver with an unfamiliar car? It's so funny how people went on about Massa being faster than Kimi for god knows how long and now they seem to erase Fisi's performance in relation to Kimi in a day, and rate Sutil who, on the basis of results, is not a better driver than the Italian.
5th November 2009, 08:31
Valve Bounce

Hey!! I just used the word Sutil as an example. Let's not get carried away here. :p :
5th November 2009, 09:01
Dzeidzei

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

Wait, so Ferrari bought out Kimi's contract with the stipulation that his pay from next year's salary would be slashed if Kimi chose to drive for another team? I think I'm missing something here....

I think quite a few are missing something. Ferrari (read Santander) pay Kimi for the breaking the contract. I havent seen any reliable source telling that KR would lose this compansation if he drove for another team.

McL might think that Kimi will drive for free as he already gets that kind of money. I think they are not discussing money at all. Its about pr duties and the possibility to drive some wrc rallyes during the season.

PS. Just a thought... what if Kimi signed with Toyota and the Japs still pull out. Would Kimi be getting compensation from 2 teams and some salary for the McL drive anyway. Now that would certainly be weird..
5th November 2009, 10:40
jens

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Originally Posted by rabf1

But I seriously doubt that Ferrari was retarded enough to pay him $50mm.

You shouldn't underestimate current Ferrari management in this respect. :p :
5th November 2009, 15:40
F1boat

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Originally Posted by jens

You shouldn't underestimate current Ferrari management in this respect. :p :

ROFL
5th November 2009, 21:58
Hondo

Based upon their performance over the last half of the season and their enthusiasm to remain in the game, I'd love to see Kimi drive for Force India next year. They are at the point they could benefit from a balls out, hard charger next year and there aren't many to pick from. He could remake his name there and help put finishing touches on Sutil.
5th November 2009, 23:16
keysersoze

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Originally Posted by Fiero 5.7

Based upon their performance over the last half of the season and their enthusiasm to remain in the game, I'd love to see Kimi drive for Force India next year.

Now THIS is a funny post! The Iceman wouldn't condescend to spend even one minute under the Force India hospitality tent, much less drive their cars.

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