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If i remember correctly, a top spec impreza Gr.N from Tommi Mäkinen Racing costed over 100K with spares.
A Mitsubishi Evo X R4 costed 120K, again, if i remember correctly.
But most Gr.N imprezas costed from 70-80K, probably "clean".
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the key in your post is past tense... Since few yers ago prices have gone up significantly...Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
So the price of a rally 3 is relative to gr N
Top spec N4 cars cost way more than 100.000€.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
For Prodrive Impreza N12 in 2006 they paid around 120.000-130.000€ (just car), also top spec EVO9 N4 with all possible parts from Ralliart was more than 100.000€.
Mad prices for Group N if you consider 2006 vs 2022, just only on inflations termsQuote:
Originally Posted by jcevc
Note that the Renault will be a pure customer operation for the Clio Rally3 as they have no in-house rally team to run it. Unlike M-Sport (Poland) which did the Fiesta.
Any ideas which teams may buy/run the new Clio for customers apart from Chazel and Fun Meca Sport ?
They will build 1 Rally3/week. I'm sure there will be a waiting list. I know there are a few of them ordered for the Netherlands.
I guess there are many french teams that could do it on their behalf. Toksport are already there, and have links to Renault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
And MSport Poland is concentrating on JWRC I guess.
on the other hand, could be good with a championship for the privateers !
Toksport sold all Clios right after Barum and, as far as I know, they don't plan to keep running the Clio Trophy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
But Rally3 is not relative to N4. In a lot of countries back in the day, the group N was a top tier car with which you could fight for overall victories/podiums. Now the Rally3 barely fights a Rally4 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by ictus
Also with the N4 you could start on a low budget and step by step build it up to a top spec. With the Rally3 you are on 120 000 Euro from the get go.
So I don't think Rally3 replaces N4, it is it's own new group with it's customers.
You are right, but the era of N4 is gone. I mean the whole concept of having "stock" car and building better and better car is not technically possible due to macro-economical reasons. So the customers could be quite similar group ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Popov
“The world has changed.
I see it in the water.
I feel it in the Earth.
I smell it in the air.
Much that once was is lost,
For none now live who remember it. ”
― J. R. R. Tolkien