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I'll use a different analogy then. You wouldn't mind hitting a very young tree (minimal damage to the car), if there was a chance you could go faster at that turn. But would you have the same approach to the corner if that tree was much older and stronger?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
…no matters what, it still was an avoidable risk!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Btw, what could be next?...
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safety to some - danger to another
tank stopper - car killer >>> https://youtu.be/9GVZPQpTVJ8
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Constant blows to the head? mmmm... that explains a lot!Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
And the darwin award goes to...Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Of course i would not expect better from a person that visits a WRC event to take "pro" artistic pictures of hairpins.
Useless masterless dogs with no use to society
A small onboard video from Suarez.
Nice onboard cam.
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All this hp vs safety debate is ignoring the fact that the increase in power is expected around 20%. That will not result in a 20% speed increase...
The place where Lefebvre crashed they are probably going to do 175 km/h rather than 165 km/h... If even that because they will likely have to brake/lift before the corner next year.
We won't see cars go insane speeds next year... Probably maximum 10% increase at the end of the straights.
Roll cage safety has massively increased since the day of group b, we have flexible fuel tanks, strengthening triangles everywhere, hans devices, six point harnesses (or 5, can't remember right now). The biggest issue is impact from the sides still, like what Michael Park died from... And that's an issue regardless of speed. If you go sideways into a tree with your road car at 70 you are likely to get killed too.
The slight increase in power and control in corners is not the difference between life and death in a crash.
Putting tires on the Hinkelsteins is not going to help either as that would just act as a ramp to propel the car into the forest.
What they should do is look at good natural ways to keep the speed down in dangerous high speed areas. Not another hay bale chicane but some neater solution.
They won't go much faster on straights (also thanks to higher drag). They will go reasonably faster through corners. That is obviously more important for crash situation that the speed on straights which isn't that important in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
The severity of a crash is determined by how fast the object at speed (driver and car) is halted, and we are not talking a 50% speed increase in the corners here. Probably maximum 10% if even that. Wk=mv²/ 2 gives an increase in kinetic energy of 21% if the increased speed is 10%. This is not what determine life or death in a crash situation.
Also with R2-power and WRC safety you could kill someone in a sideways impact in finland towards a tree... or say that the same car in a high speed event hits a rock on the inside of the corner and it throws the car on it's side into a tree, just so that it hits the windshield.
I can guarantee that will be bye bye both driver and codriver considering how much damage there was to that area of Camili's car in Monte this year from a relatively low speed impact.
The increased speed is not what will make or break the safety situation.
Actually for side-impact the cars will be safer. According to Sven Smeets (in an interview with autonews magazine), inside the new cars there's more space between the seats of the drivers and the doors.