Wrc Tour de Corse 2015

Latvala and Hirvonen both got to the level they did, only because of time and miles in the car, not talent. Latvala has been in WRC car for over 10 years now, and still lacks consistancy. He has done lots of testing and many many rallies. If he cant win championship now, its never.

And about blocking talent, I didn't mean Latvala is doing that. His manager has done that to all but his drivers. Just failed to do that to Grönholm, but nearly manged that as well

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Originally Posted by COD

Latvala and Hirvonen both got to the level they did, only because of time and miles in the car, not talent. Latvala has been in WRC car for over 10 years now, and still lacks consistancy. He has done lots of testing and many many rallies. If he cant win championship now, its never.

And about blocking talent, I didn't mean Latvala is doing that. His manager has done that to all but his drivers. Just failed to do that to Grönholm, but nearly manged that as well

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What utta bollocks

Latvala is hugely talented and is clearly out front of the pack with the exception of the freakeshly fast and ice cool Ogier.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Latvala is just natural born loser... he can win events but not championships.

another failed project like Hirvonen brought to you by none other than the finish manager system.. producing failures since 2003.. ask your local manager for a brochure on our great services and products.

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At least Mikko was the only driver who's able to forcing Seb. L to fighting down to the wire twice. :p

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDa7ISYFWYs

^ Now I see why Abbring went off.

Kubica planning to leave WRC or to mix circuit with Rally next year. He's now seriously thinking to go "where I have more credit in the motorsport: circuit racing."

He says other things I didn't understand. Maybe some polish guy can help.

http://eurosport.onet.pl/motorowe/ra...-ma-tor/mhgxvd

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Originally Posted by danon

^ Now I see why Abbring went off.

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yes i noticed that too...

http://forum-rallye.com/uploads/mont...1443994802.jpg

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Originally Posted by AL14

Kubica planning to leave WRC or to mix circuit with Rally next year. He's now seriously thinking to go "where I have more credit in the motorsport: circuit racing."

He says other things I didn't understand. Maybe some polish guy can help.

http://eurosport.onet.pl/motorowe/ra...-ma-tor/mhgxvd

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Is Robert Kubica's patience running out? After the Rally of Corsica Polish driver admitted that he is seriously considering a return to racetracks. He stressed, however, that he did not have enough of rallies.
- If we want to rally at high level, everything has to be at high level - Kubica says when I ask about plans for the 2016 season. He is not bored with rallying, but currently they are more a source of frustration than satisfaction. - Today there is no possibility for us to fight for top positions - adds Polish WRC competitor.

Robert admits that he is seriously considering splitting time between racing in selected rallies and races. - Today this is the most feasible plan. I think I will go back to a place where I have a big credit which is professional track racing - admits Kubica.

Are you tired of the WRC? On that question Robert responds firmly. - No. I really like rallies, but I miss something that track has. So far, in rallies and especially in their current form, I'm not getting this. The full interview about next year plans of Robert Kubica in Monday's "Sport Review".

I can see that Tidemand managed to have two accidents and a puncture on seven stages. Quite an event to forget...

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Originally Posted by rallyace

First of all, Jari-Matti Latvala is the best Finnish driver available to the WRC. Esapekka Lappi (as well as a few others in WRC2 or JWRC) aren't mature enough to earn a full-time seat with any of the current manufacturers. So who should replace him when there's no one to do so?

Being the world's second best driver and still being labeled a "loser" is astounding. If we were to apply such flawed (and much too simplified) logic to the rest of the WRC field, they are all losers. Surely, according to this logic, they must be, because Latvala is (and has been for a long time) second in the standings. Using this flawed logic, every rally is "Ogier vs. all the losers". What an appealing way to view the pinnacle of our beloved sport...

No one is "blocking" Finnish drivers from entering the WRC because of Latvala's presence herein. It might have quite the opposite effect, even; Latvala's presence is a boost to the remainder of the Finnish field. An example: If you were Capito, Matton, Wilson or Nandan, how much faith would you have in Finnish drivers in general if there wasn't even a Finnish driver in the Championship to begin with?

The following shouldn't be earth-shattering, revolutionary news, but I fear it might be: There's more to being a "winner" or a "loser" than mere stats and figures. Yes, Ogier is at the top of the standings. He's been there for a long time and he'll continue to be there for a long time. But mixed in with his plain arrogance, unsportsmanlike attitude and lack of maturity, is he really a winner? Or is he at least more a winner than the is a bad loser?

Then there's Jari-Matti, arguably the most professional and 'rally-minded' of all drivers in the WRC. He discussed tyre strategy with Hayden Paddon at Rally Sardegna when the talented but in-experienced Kiwi was running ahead of the field. He's the first to congratulate his teammates when they beat him. He'll always take time to answer any post-stage questions and sign autographs and he'll be polite, articulate and ooze rallying passion. He'll even enter Historic Rallies such as the ones of Finland and Estonia despite these not having a huge following - but he does it for the passion of the sport.

He's the type of driver every child with a passion for rallying should look up to and want to emulate, not only because of how he is on the special stages, but (perhaps more importantly) how he is outside of them.

As I mentioned, there's more to being a winner than the points total next to your name. And therefore it wouldn't be erroneous to consider Jari-Matti the biggest winner in the WRC.

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I agree. It is very easy to criticise, Very hard to build and grow as J-M has.