Post #565
When I first discovered this thread, it was about 10 or so days in dormant status. And to think that I merely mentioned myself as being Marxist, a flashpoint occurred, and hey ‘presto-chango’ it took off. But hey, this is the People Power thread is it not? :crazy: :)Quote:
Originally Posted by race aficionado
Post # 585
:up: This is exactly what British economist Barbara Ward recommend in her international speeches and her works in writing. In order to establish global peace and tranquility, she suggested that the rich nations (us Westerners) or the ‘Northern Hemisphere’ as she referred it to, contribute to the less fortunate nations - most of which we exploited by one means or another - so that they would be able to sustain themselves and advance accordingly with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArrowsFA1
Which she was regarded as a distribionist, that unfortunately would be translated to, here in America at least, as communist. Though her principles were noble, they were subject to the liability of human nature, like that of communism. That of which I’ll explain in the following….
Post #600
Indeed the pro-capitalists have ignored this statement, because it refers to the human toll. I have already brought this up before in one instance, so it’s fairly obvious that the subject is taboo - for obvious reasons I might add.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I must add that there was one peculiar statement, or so I feel, that you made and I wish to discover what it is that you meant:
Post #50
This comment here I found to be a bit, shall we say judgemental.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
On the point of clarification, I am a Marxist in the sense that I think Marx/Engels had some pretty good community-based ideas, though I would have to say that their utopian concepts were just that, concepts. As I ‘ve stated on this forum many times before, mankind cannot, in any shape or form be trusted.
Which is why from time to time, most particularly during the CP (Capital Punishment) debates and 2nd amendment debates as well, I would contest you and anyone else who continually brought up the “civilized nation” bit. Not once have I stated that those beliefs were delusional, though I certainly did imply that those notions were a myth, and in some sense, an ultimate oxymoron.
I know that communism won’t work, but it’s obvious to me, and you, and even chuck from what I detected from one of his posts, just on the principles of mankind’s innate characteristics; competition.
It’s the ultimate reason why communism won’t work, it is of course the same reason that civilized nations” will never emerge, and it is course why capitalism will crumble in such a form that it will eventually create a socialist society… or worse, economic genocide. Such as what occurred in Ireland during the famine, which Marx duly noted, and stated that at first the English were first dispensing of the Irish by means of Cromwell, whereas during the famine it was by means of cattle (on the land being sold out for commodity purposes).
So, I have to ask you, what is it that you consider more delusional?
1) those with genuine communist beliefs
2) those who believe in the notion of ‘civilized nations’
3) or those who believe in a destructive economic system, that is designed to sustain powerful, egocentric sociopaths.
I am quite sincere on this question, as I presume that you, like many others throughout the globe, know what is at stake; knowledge and the ability to recognize when freedoms are rapidly diminishing in this current age of data exploitation.
