[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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27th September 2011, 18:26
traxx

Certainly a swap between Ogier and Hirvonen for next year
http://bit.ly/nVVK6j
27th September 2011, 18:51
wildsir

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Originally Posted by traxx

Certainly a swap between Ogier and Hirvonen for next year
Ogier se rassure sur ses terres

I notable absentee commenting on this is Tomi.. He always has the Finn inside line.
27th September 2011, 19:01
N.O.T

LOL...

Amusing...
27th September 2011, 20:56
MJW

Change of co-driver for Eyvind Brynildsen in France, Timo Alanne is co-driver. Timo is ex Anton Alen co-driver and has in past few years on tarmac rallies been co-driving Simon Jean Joseph as Petter's gravel crew.
27th September 2011, 22:11
wildsir

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

LOL...

Amusing...

Tongue in cheek of course.....
27th September 2011, 23:17
MR666

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Originally Posted by 6789

iRally is reporting that the FIA is allowing 25% less tyres for events next year. Michelin and Dmack are the tyre suppliers as well. Less tyres probably wouldn't help Latvala who is quite rough on them?

This sounds like an unsafe thing to do.
28th September 2011, 00:34
bluuford

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Originally Posted by MR666

This sounds like an unsafe thing to do.

Currently it is allowed to use 6 tyres per tyre change and 6 additional tyres for shakedown. That is approximately 42 tyres per rally. -25% means approximately 10.5 tyres less.
If you wont give extra tyres for shakedown, you get -6 tyres (you can use your shakedown tyres later as a spare tyres). if you give two spares only for the first tyre change (so that you can use those spares later as well), then you get another -5 tyres and we have saved -11 tyres. That is around 31 tyres per rally in total.
So, no safety issues, only less tactics with tires and probably less traction due to their longer durability. Cost saving is pretty big for privateer. I do not know the latest price of Michelin control tyre, but Pirelly was around 200-230 EUR if I am not mistaken? So, it should be between 2000 and 3000 EUR less per one rally.
28th September 2011, 09:42
6789

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Originally Posted by bluuford

Currently it is allowed to use 6 tyres per tyre change and 6 additional tyres for shakedown. That is approximately 42 tyres per rally. -25% means approximately 10.5 tyres less.
If you wont give extra tyres for shakedown, you get -6 tyres (you can use your shakedown tyres later as a spare tyres). if you give two spares only for the first tyre change (so that you can use those spares later as well), then you get another -5 tyres and we have saved -11 tyres. That is around 31 tyres per rally in total.
So, no safety issues, only less tactics with tires and probably less traction due to their longer durability. Cost saving is pretty big for privateer. I do not know the latest price of Michelin control tyre, but Pirelly was around 200-230 EUR if I am not mistaken? So, it should be between 2000 and 3000 EUR less per one rally.

The article says "reduction from 48 - 35 and a restricition to a limit of 5 tyres per change, with 7 changes allowed during a WRC event" "The FIA is also warning teams to expect a further 15-20% cut in 2013 and 2014"

Sorry I can't post the article, iphone doesn't allow it
28th September 2011, 09:43
Mirek

I agree that it's no safety issue. There are crews who don't use a single new tyre for a whole championship...

I'm just a bit worried that new more durable tyres will cost more and the total cost will not change at all :)
28th September 2011, 13:45
Brother John

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Originally Posted by Mirek

I agree that it's no safety issue. There are crews who don't use a single new tyre for a whole championship...

I'm just a bit worried that new more durable tyres will cost more and the total cost will not change at all :)

What will happen now? Another stupid decision by the FIA.

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