If I was a goalie in a shootout I'd dive the same way for every kick. You're certain to get close to half of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
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If I was a goalie in a shootout I'd dive the same way for every kick. You're certain to get close to half of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
The hate on this thread is quite unbelievable
You wouldn't save any of the Panenkas :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
I went to bed at half time but forgot how to sleep so I turned the tv back on for the penalties. Even those were boring. Why didn't van Gaal change the keeper again? He was deemed a genius for that move but now we all know what must have been already obvious to him, Cillessen is just no good at penalties.
If a European team had a similar level of quality and character, would they even have made a play-off spot?Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
Was it you who said that Nigel Mansell was an Exeter City fan? If not, can you confirm that he is?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
As in England fans being gloriously pessimistic? But England are perpetually rubbish. That's not hate, that's a statement of proven fact :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EightGear
Not that I know, but he did live in the area and owned a kart track and golf course near by.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman racer
Michael Jackson and David Blaine once came to Exeter with Uri Gellar (who used to be a 'big fan' when he thought he could get publicity from it) for a day, it was all very surreal. Jackson was made an honorary director. David Prowse was also involved in the club at one time, although the name isn't recognisable he is better known as Darth Vader (although James Earl Jones did the voice).
Adrian Edmonson (from the Young Ones and Bottom) is a season ticket holder at City though, he lives in the area and is a pretty big fan.
Slightly OT but worth mentioning somewhere; talk abouthaving "Promoters Remorse" :grenade:
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Organisers of the German Grand Prix are regretting a marketing decision which has seen hundreds of fans taking advantage of a €77 (£61) discount on some last-minute tickets. The race organisers at Hockenheim promised to apply an €11 (£8.70) discount for every goal scored by the German football team against Brazil on Tuesday. The team went on to score a record breaking seven goals, resulting in a massive discount of €77 on selected tickets for the race in just over a week.
They had already used all of their substitutions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Ben
The more I think about it, the softer Argentina's World Cup draw becomes. :mark: Would be a little disappointed if they won it to be honest.
To be fair Netherlands beat Spain & Chile? Thats not bad and Argentina (just) beat them plus a decent Belgium side.
Argentina have set up pretty defensively but thats seen off some decent teams.
The other side of the draw is weak too. I mean Brazil were average as hell but made the semi.
Germany laboured v Ghana who got their only point v Germany and struggled massively against Algeria.
No one has looked good all the way through.
Germany probably have had the best attack and beaten only France who looked strong.
Thus I reckon best attack and maybe most miserly defensive now. 0 goals conceded in 3 knock out games and only 3 all tournament. 2 of those in a laid back tie v Nigeria.
Thus its best attack v best defense. That seems like the teams who are each best at the two key apsects have made the final to me.
It ended at 0420 here but loved every minute of it. :D
Masche was immense last night.
Anybody else think that the 3rd place match is a monumental waste of time? I for one have never watched it ever....gonna get drunk (a bit) on saturday to get ready for sunday...might not be in such a celebratory mood if Germany wins :p:
Normally the BBC show highlights of every single World Cup match in a special programme. The 3rd placed match is the only one they dont bother with.
So clearly the BBC think it is a waste of time.
I guess it comes from the Olympics. I generally and the fact the early Olympic Football tournaments were considered World Cups and they must have had a 3rd placed match (i.e Bronze medal). So I guess it stuck.
Interestingly the Euro's do not have one. I believe the Copa America does though.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
3rd place playoff is just rubbish. The team that wins is third, so the better of the semi-final losers - still losers. And the one that gets beaten again ends the tournament with two losses after making it to the semis. It's basically justb a game for who gets kicked in the family planning the hardest.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
It's a good game for all of FIFAs sponsors.....
BTW, just watched the Neymar presser. What is it with these Brazilians sobbing and weeping all the time? Do those guys have no cojones or anything? Players, spectators - look anywhere they're bawling. Talk about a bunch of people with no self-respect...
Current 3rd Place reigning champions (?) in Europe are Czechoslovakia who beat Italy in a penalty shoot-out in 1980.Quote:
Originally Posted by steveaki13
The English FA Cup briefly flirted with a 3rd place match from 1970-74 and that too was abandoned due to lack of interest.
I can understand in say the Olympics, where they issue a bronze medal, the need for a third place playoff but I have no idea why there needs to be one in the World Cup, other than to say that the fixture almost always produces a more entertaining match. I immediately think of 1994 when Sweden beat Bulgaria 4-0 and the final was the most boring boring boring affair; which probably did more to set back US football back a decade than anything else.
The Brazilian-German game is one I'll be remembering for a long time. A true sensation. But I have always supported Germany, and hope they win the title finally after a long time. They have been very consistent throughout previous tournaments, but yet to clinch the title with what is a very strong squad. Hopefully they can keep it up for the finals. Sometimes Germany can put in a graet show (like vs Argentina 4:0 in 2010), but could lose the next decisive match. So it is paramount not to lose form this time.
Argentina coming up steadily like your traditional Italian team - 1:0 or 0:0 wins with penalties, strong defence. Such a team could be tricky for Germany. Teams with consistently strong but unspectacular style have won tournaments before too. Like Greece in 2004. Messi is good as always, but always covered by at least 3 defenders, so he hasn't been able to do much. Which is understandable, because you have to defend with at least 3 people against this guy or he'll break through.
Brazil... I guess many things came together in this one shocking match. Not a very strong team this time. Injuries of key players further weakened the team. Game plan, which was way too optimistic given the state of players and their rival (Germany). And home pressure, which doesn't allow Brazil to play ultradefensively, hoping to eek out till penalties. But from strategical point of view this would have been their only hope...
Crazy crazy stuff. Brazilians looked like they were for the first time ever on the pitch. "Er... Wait-wait a moment? What's going on? What should I do?" And these are top professionals, who have played tens and hundreds of games for top clubs and have experienced all kinds of situations, have lives and breathed football all life and know everything about it like the back of their hand. Incredible. But anything can happen in life.:)
As far as Olympics having 3rd place, many sports there do not have one...boxing comes to mind. Both semi-finalists get a bronze.
I was a bit sad that Netherland lost, but now I can wear the new orange team track jacket without feeling like a fair weather supporter. :D
I'm still a bit undecided about GER-ARG, I'd quite like to Messi score a couple of goals and Germany has the same problem as Holland, the Bayern Munchen Dive club players. But come Sunday, I think I'll end up rooting for Germany, like always.
I'm also sobbing and weeping all the time and now I finally got to know why: I have no cojones....Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
As for brazilians, I don't know...
They're different. For them football is a sort of state of spirit.
FIFA announced Italy's Nicola Rizzoli to referee final between Argentina and Germany.
No really, I'm serious. Whenever they showed the Brazilian players they were sprouting this 'God help us' rubbish and bawled their eyes out. And seriously, if you can't take something as inconsequential as a lost football game without taking leave of your dignity, you shouldn't be in the stadium in the first place. What the heck is that all about? To me that looked a trifle unhealthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
Motto:“Heaven knows we need never be ashamed of our tears, for they are rain upon the blinding dust of earth, overlying our hard hearts. I was better after I had cried, than before--more sorry, more aware of my own ingratitude, more gentle.”
― Charles Dickens, Great Expectations
I'm very serios too. ( although about 75℅ of those who read my posts won't believe it :p). And I cry almost every day exactly cos I don't want to lose my dignity. You're german(?) and probably more calm, reserved, practical and have a high level of self-esteem. I don't expect you to ever get emotional but please try to understand that we, the latins, are a bit different. It's possible that some of us lack cojones but most of us have corazón.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
Well, we have to put emphatically ourselves into their positions. You have lived football all your life with your heart. This means football largely is life to you - and certainly way of making a living and earning a wage. Then you are playing for your home country at the biggest tournament. Which is not a random country, but one, which aims to win. It is not, say, Tahiti-Germany 1:7, it is Brazil-Germany. You are playing in front of your home crowd in one of the most important matches a sportsman can ever imagine.Quote:
Originally Posted by dj_bytedisaster
So much training, so much preparation, so much effort put into it. It is not just playing and "oh it's only football". Maybe for amateurs, who like to kick around for fun at the weekends it would be like that. But to be a top sportsman you have had full dedication to succeed and made many sacrifices in life to reach your goals. Only for all the effort to go out of the window. I'd cry as well to be honest. You really tried hard, have put so much life and heart into it and you failed badly. This will create an emotion.
Would you watch all of your life work (including reputation) go down the drain without any emotion? Think about any job or education or anything you have gone through in your life. Something you really tried hard to be good at and succeed in. And then in a crucial moment you realized that you were a complete embarrassment. And for these guys it was in front of the whole world audience.
For these guys it was not just a game. Their lives will never be the same again. When they walk on streets, whatever, people (particularly their compatriors, Brazilians) will view them differently. At least many will do. They will be looked at as losers. It will be a different kind of feeling to live with. But I think only truly famous people, who get attention everywhere, can undestand, what this means.
So guys, who will watch the match this evening? ( because I need to know how many beers I should set aside :p).
I know it's a not at stake match but it will be fun to watch together the Diver vs the Crybabies.
I'll turn the TV to the channel showing the game, but I don't think I'll seriously watch the game. I'll be interested to see which Brazil we'll see. They'll either come out determined to erase the memory and 'go for it' or they'll come out totally broken-spirited and play ultra-defensively.
I also will watch it, only to see, how many goals will Netherlands score :evil:
I'll be watching on and off Gadji (more on if it is a decent match). I just don't know if I like either team. As long as someone ends up crying I guess I'll be satisfied :confused:
It's a 1pm start out here and I've got a lot to do around the house, plus I have to pick up the license plate for my new scooter toady, so don't put any beer aside for me I've taken the oath for the weekend :p:
BTW Sorry :devil: about Steaua it sounded like an exciting match, of course I had to work in the field so I didn't even have time to look for a stream, enjoy the season!
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Originally Posted by Tazio
Someone will cry anyway: the Diver if Neth....lose, me if Brazil lose.
Satisfaction guaranteed. :laugh:
It's ok, I'm used with the role of eternal loser. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Tazio
And congrats to you for Astra, aren't you the crowned king of pickems anyway? :devil:
BTW, next time when you want to tease me about my fav squad, pick up Dinamo, I really hate those red dogs (dawgs?)
That's all jolly well - they got effed up the bum in front of the world and it hurts. one may cry when bleeding from the bunghole. But they were already crying before it even started. That's what's so ridiculous. They cried after the Chile game when the only thing worth crying about was the ridiculously bad game they had shown. they cried when the sun came out and bawled the raw stuffing out of themselves if someone looked at them cross-eyed.Don't try to tell me that's normal :sQuote:
Originally Posted by jens
Count me in.Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
Diver vs Crap tonight.
I will be watching.
Anyone want to call me grumpy. :angryfire;)
Go go Divers !!! :evil: :p:
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Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
I have had a little while to think about it and decided I also want Brazil to win, but not as badly as I want
the diver to lose. It is hard for me to have favorites because I don't follow the sport at all, but I love the WC. There was a time when I was much younger that I had a small interest in Liga MX, plus I used to attend quite a few indoor games but that is not even soccer. I was really hoping Mexico would have go further into the tourney, and that is why I harbor ill will toward "The Diver" and his dive in that match!
Since you asked I will clear this up, “Dawg” is actually a term of endearment on the street level. I think it got started in the US prison system but I could bewrong about that. Your dawgs are your paesan’s, associates, "conpinches" partners, you know!Quote:
Originally Posted by gadjo_dilo
Dog is a dog and generally not considered a term of endearment. It is kind oflike the "N" word, It is ok to use it if it ends with an"a". If in ends in an "r" you are a racist pig. Anyway theterm dawg has been out of vogue for a good 15 years I just use it to maintainmy standing as the forum knucklehead :angel:
Blue suites the diver.
And Neymar is a cutie as always.
The diver is back!!!!!!
That's red !!!!!!!!
Stupid referee :mad:
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