another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

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Originally Posted by Jag_Warrior

Look, at this stage of the game, I pretty much know who thinks what.

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I'm not sure why you have so much disdain for someone else's opinion on this board. You could at least read what others have to say. One reason I like this site is because people the world over can give you a different perspective.

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I went and got myself darn healthy this year, after a couple of major scares over the past couple of years. And if you'd like to do a bench press contest for say, $100, I'd be game.

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Bench pressing is pretty tame. I'd rather box or wrestle.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

There will be civil unrest the day the federal government tries to enter and forcibly remove firearms from law abiding citizens.

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If you look at the approval ratings for Congress among Americans of all political stripes, it's apparent that very few citizens are big fans of the government these days. And many of us also see judicial and law enforcement activities which are corrupt and biased. Multi-billion dollar money laundering scheme for drug cartels and organized crime by HSBC... uh, is anyone going to jail? No, but the kid with half pound of weed that got caught on the interstate is going to be pulling 15 years. Hip-hip-hooray!

Criminals are already prohibited from owning firearms in the United States. So the only people who you can (effectively) get guns away from are those who legally possess them. And yep, that's going to be a problem. If law abiding people begin to sense that they are the focus of the government, while criminals get a pass... there might be trouble.

Why did I leave banking? I really should have stayed. I mean, unless you get caught in a motel room with a dead teenage girl or a live teenage boy, there's just not much that can get you sent to the pokey these days. Yep, either banking or politics. As long as you can keep your conscience in the closet for about 18 hours a day, that's the way to go. You can fund drug cartels, take some points for laundering money, do some insider trading, write some subprime mortgages to people with decent credit... always a way to turn a dollar - and still be a respectable member of society. Damn my conscience!

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Originally Posted by gloomyDAY

I'm not sure why you have so much disdain for someone else's opinion on this board. You could at least read what others have to say. One reason I like this site is because people the world over can give you a different perspective.

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Don't mistake my lack of desire to participate as disdain for the opinions of others. I have read much of what others have said. And on both sides, people are generally saying in this thread what they've said in every other thread on the topic. I have no desire to play that game right now. Maybe next week, after Christmas is over. We'll see.

But I've been here longer than I've been with any company or stayed in any relationship because I like sharing ideas with the people here too. Whether I agree with someone or not, if their position is rational and well stated, I can still respect and appreciate it.

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Bench pressing is pretty tame. I'd rather box or wrestle.

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Amish rake fighting! Don't p###y out on me! Pick up that rake and meet me behind the barn. The winner gets to take Miss Lucy Mae to the hoedown.

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Originally Posted by nigelred5

I'd mentioned earlier our schools have had resource police officers for years. Teachers and students are quite used to them being in the school. I thought in a school with two full time police officers and was actually quite comfortable with them present.

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Hopefully not English.

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Originally Posted by Rollo

Wayne LaPierre caused the then President of the US to resign his membership of the NRA. Is this the image that the NRA wish to project? Who do they actually represent, gun owners or manufacturers?

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I suppose this was a rhetorical question. ;)

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

To quote a quote from senator (Democrat) Schumer:
Schumer said that LaPierre believes "the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is good guy with a gun. What about trying to stop the bad guy from getting the gun in the first place? That's common sense. Most Americans agree with it"

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so how are you going to do that ?????

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Originally Posted by ioan

Hopefully not English.

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Didn't teach typing, that's for, sure, but I also don't even try to edit on a freaking iphone. I can barely type on it to begin with.

US history, civics and contemporary politics actually. I couldn't stand teaching a county mandated, revisionist, afrocentric curriculum that absolutely *******ized US history. 1900 to 1950 was one 12 Page chapter. World War II was one and a half pages, mostly about the war being won singlehandedly by the Tuskegee Airmen. No mention of Hitler, the atomic bomb, or the events of the pacific war or the effects the wars had on domestic life in the United States. The holocaust was not even mentioned. Honestly it was the worst curriculum I have ever seen, even trying to teach what was included, and I was not allowed to deviate the least bit.

I am an American and a gun owner who fully supports the second amendment. So often we are told that we should not support any gun restrictions because it will start us down the "slippery slope" to getting our guns taken away from us. Lately, though, if you look at the facts, the "slippery slope" is only running the other direction towards more and more freedom to own whatever arms we want and to carry them with us at all times wherever we want.

The NRA Surge: 99 Laws Rolling Back Gun Restrictions | Mother Jones

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Since 2009, the NRA and its allies in state capitols have pushed through 99 laws making guns easier to own, easier to carry in public—eight states now even allow them in bars—and harder for the government to track.

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Well what has that gotten us? Well, it's gotten a couple of guys who could easily be my neighbors in a lot of trouble. On Feb. 6, 2009, 59 year-old Harry Coleman shot 52 year-old Robert Schwerin in the parking lot of Trinity Commons shopping center outside of the Villa Castrioti, an Italian restaurant I have been to several times that is less than a mile from my house.

A Killing in Cordova - Memphis Magazine - September 2012 - Memphis

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Prosecutors at Coleman’s trial would make much of the gesture that followed. Standing only inches from Schwerin, Coleman placed the tip of his gun on Schwerin’s lips and forced the muzzle into his mouth, according to multiple testimonies. (Coleman disputes this characterization and says instead that he placed the gun “between [Schwerin’s] nose and his mouth,” though one imagines a jury drawing little distinction between the two acts.) The men paused in this tableau for a moment. Then, fewer than 15 minutes after the encounter had begun, Coleman took several steps backward, raised his gun, and shot Schwerin in the chest."

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Schwerin, who had recently lost his wife to cancer, died and left 3 children without a mother and a father, and Coleman who should be enjoying his golden years and grandchildren is going to prison for 18 years. Yes, alcohol was involved, and Schwerin was a jerk, vandalizing Coleman's car, but the fact remains a man was killed over a parking lot dispute because of easy access to guns. It's a perverse, ghetto attitude invading the middle-class community. "He disrespected me so I showed him."

That's kind of the point,isn't it? All of the guns in these stories right now are legal and are being committed by people, who up until the moment the deed is done have never committed a crime in their lives. I don't fear criminals right now, I fear my fellow law-abiding citizen who in a moment of weakness or lapsed judgement is going to accidentally shoot me or someone in my family.

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Originally Posted by Roamy

so how are you going to do that ?????

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there-in lies the challenge.

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

there-in lies the challenge.

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Which the ban guns advocates here have no answer to and refuse to acknowledge that they have no answer.