Singapore 2008: Briatore and Symmonds resign

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17th September 2009, 02:16
Valve Bounce

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

This is a man you deride?

I urge you to look at the facts and reconsider your position.

Yes, Briatore is not a technical person but he brought a different perspective to f1 and his ideas were acted upon to the degree that he was the leader in and of FOTA and its break-away series position.

... duh!!!

Flav is a cheating conniving lying scumbag. He is departing Renault because he was involved in the fixing of a race, and he deserves to be in jail in Singapore. He has brought shame to the competition of F1. And he has disgraced the name of Renault.

And his attack on the private life of Nelson Piquet Jr just about sums up what a sleaze he is.

Good riddance!!
17th September 2009, 02:39
keysersoze

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Originally Posted by Lemmy-Boy

Get a grip on reality. It's not about praising the son of a Nazi-Fascist sympathizer. What Mosely has done is no different from the Machiavellian instincts or actions found in the boardroom of FORTUNE 500 companies.

F1 has a history full of shady, cut-throat individuals. Even to this day nothing has changed in the dog-eat-dog world that surrounds F1. The soap operas will continue, whether you like it or not.

After all, many of these car-nazi's (manufacturers in F1) have performed atrocities that's well beyond the scope of Nazi Germany. In the past (and even today) many of them have sold death boxes (cars) with crappy engineering or lackluster safety standards. All in the name of the mighty dollar but at a cost of millions of lives on the road.

I don't doubt the realities. I just don't praise them, or give my tacit approval, and I certainly don't feel that Max (of all people) deserves to "enjoy" someone else's demise.
17th September 2009, 03:08
Saint Devote

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Flav is a cheating conniving lying scumbag. He is departing Renault because he was involved in the fixing of a race, and he deserves to be in jail in Singapore. He has brought shame to the competition of F1. And he has disgraced the name of Renault.

And his attack on the private life of Nelson Piquet Jr just about sums up what a sleaze he is.

Good riddance!!

The private life of Piquet? I didn't read anything. Anyway its rich irony because we all recall the personal attacks by Nelson Piquet [father] on Senna and Mansell.

So you think the Briatore issue [which has still to be proven although you are presuming Briatore's guilt] is that serious you impune the character of Flavio?

Then what do you say about a driver that CRASHES into another competitir deliberately - why was there no investigation. And seeing that the past can be dragged up, why is the team not investigated NOW?

And what about the scandal of Ferrari being the secret partner to making the rules - why is that not a "crime"?

There is a double standard, a standard of subjective guilt that makes the outrage against Flavio akin to the moment in the movie Casablanca, where the Vichy detective is "shocked to discover...."

To the people that attack Flavio and revel in his trouble - their disgusting schadenfreude - I say "je accuse!!, je accuse! You are all hypocrites!
17th September 2009, 03:51
Valve Bounce

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Devote

The private life of Piquet? I didn't read anything. Anyway its rich irony because we all recall the personal attacks by Nelson Piquet [father] on Senna and Mansell.

So you think the Briatore issue [which has still to be proven although you are presuming Briatore's guilt] is that serious you impune the character of Flavio?

Then what do you say about a driver that CRASHES into another competitir deliberately - why was there no investigation. And seeing that the past can be dragged up, why is the team not investigated NOW?

And what about the scandal of Ferrari being the secret partner to making the rules - why is that not a "crime"?

There is a double standard, a standard of subjective guilt that makes the outrage against Flavio akin to the moment in the movie Casablanca, where the Vichy detective is "shocked to discover...."

To the people that attack Flavio and revel in his trouble - their disgusting schadenfreude - I say "je accuse!!, je accuse! You are all hypocrites!

!. In answer to you opening sentence, read the link given in this thread, and where it has been discussed alread, and where most of us called him a sleazy scumbag.

In answer to your second sentence, Yes! [read the questions put to Pat Symonds that he evaded], and Yes! He is a lying, cheating, conniving scumbag!.

In answer to your third and fourth sentences, they have been discussed ad infinitum here long before you blessed us here with your presence.

In answer to your next sentence, this has nothing to do with Humphrey Bogart.

And we all than you for your last paragraph!! and we don't give a shyte!!
17th September 2009, 03:55
WSRfan82

fav and sims leaving...to me...says it all...GUILTY!! i know i know NPjr was not the best driver but i don't think the crash was an accident.

fav, pat didn't give NPjr a easy time and then asking him to set up a deliberate crash and then firing him...knowing all this had gone on and expecting NPJr not to say a word...big mistake and are going to pay for it.
17th September 2009, 04:25
Valve Bounce

Worshiper of Sleazy Flav

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saint Devote

To the people that attack Flavio and revel in his trouble - their disgusting schadenfreude - I say "je accuse!!, je accuse! You are all hypocrites!

At least, you have identified yourself as a worshiper of Sleazy Flav, and that stench will follow you in this forum forever. :eek:

One more thing!! if you are going to say j'accuse!!, j'accuse!, at least get that right :rolleyes:
17th September 2009, 04:50
harsha

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

At least, you have identified yourself as a worshiper of Sleazy Flav, and that stench will follow you in this forum forever. :eek:

One more thing!! if you are going to say j'accuse!!, j'accuse!, at least get that right :rolleyes:

:laugh:
17th September 2009, 05:12
Daniel

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

At least, you have identified yourself as a worshiper of Sleazy Flav, and that stench will follow you in this forum forever. :eek:

One more thing!! if you are going to say j'accuse!!, j'accuse!, at least get that right :rolleyes:

Sacre bleu merde petit dejeuner! :p
17th September 2009, 05:15
CNR

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...-14495823.html

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While questions were asked at the time, the governing body said they could take no action because there had been no complaints or protests over the result. That was also their line when, it is believed, the subject was raised again at last year's season-ending Brazilian Grand Prix.
Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sp...#ixzz0RKlGF3T2
17th September 2009, 06:59
Roamy

valve
I think you hate flav worse than I hate Richards

In flav's favor he did bed Naomi and Heidi

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