Now it's "nothing sure for 2018. C3 or Fiesta"... : http://www.lemagsportauto.com/wrc-in...stralie/28158/Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
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Now it's "nothing sure for 2018. C3 or Fiesta"... : http://www.lemagsportauto.com/wrc-in...stralie/28158/Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Winning in a season when Lappi and Evans did it too is not something exceptional. Thierry was fastest everywhere (except for a couple of rallies where the Hyundai was not up to the job) and Tanak is not even second or third in this classification.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
So you are saying that Lappi, Evans and Tänak are bad drivers, although we still had all the competitors we had last year (pretty much)+ these 2 winners extra, just not the everyone- eveywhere winning Polo... You have to drive with wisdom, if you want to finish high in overall classification, TN failed in that pretty badly and "car not up to the job" is just a stupid excuse, although it seems to be partially correct when talking about Finland. Plus his annoying whining and insulting habits...
who are second and third then?Quote:
Originally Posted by A FONDO
What?? Ogier’s year may not have been as polished or straightforward as some of his other WDCs, but he still beat all the other drivers by collecting more points. The prize is ‘Driver of the year’ not ‘most improved’ or ‘least regressed’.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Agree, BUT well, it isn`t...that one is called WDC. I would`ve also voted for Ogier, but as this is not an objective title, but subjective, the result is what it is.
http://www.sportti.com/uutinen.asp?CAT=1-2&ID=352667
Quite interesting quote from Seb that I don't recall seeing elsewhere. Something like "when I reveal my decision, you will understand why I didn't do it yet in Australia"
Tbh that would fit into "Ford returning" scenario which will likely happen on some media event.
I hope they hurry, then. What rally or automotive venue is left to make the announcement this year?
December 1-10.Los Angeles Auto Show. And early January, Ford's home show Detroit Naias.
I would think US events are a poor location to announce a return to WRC. Only a handful of Audi and Subaru owners would get it.
As Ogier once said, "it's not the best man who is winning" all the time. WDC does not equate to the best driver overall in a season. Maybe the quickest and most deserving driver had to retire from events due to failures out of his control, consequently losing a championship he deserved...Quote:
Originally Posted by car
Not referencing anybody in particular... :)
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Ford always uses the birmingham auto-sport International for any announcements...
Surely you mean M-Sport?Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
That is in January, two weeks before Monte Carlo Rally.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
I would've thought that winning this year's championship had actually validated Ogier's skill as a driver and character as a competitor more than the 13-16 titles?
In those years. The VW was the best car. It's not to diminish him because if it. It's just it's undeniable that you get greater value for your effort in the best car, and it's not really that bad when you haven't put in on the bad days.
So to then come in and knock off the title. Not only driving for a smaller, private team. But with what seems to be perennial losers in M-Sport. I would've thought was an extremely impressive accomplishment, and validated Ogier just as much (if not, more) than winning 9 titles in the best car?
As far as Neuville is concerned? My impression is that he may've suffered from a lack of experience? In that while he's finished 2nd twice before. This year is the first year he's been a serious title contender. It was right there for him to get. That is a different context to participate than just being there and being able to drive as fast as a multiple champion. This season should do him good in future seasons when in a similar position. (I think Nico Rosberg had a similar problem in 2014?)
So yeah. Fwiw.
They have no clue what they mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToughMac
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Originally Posted by N.O.T
That would seem late, but if the money and R&D is already put up for 2018 one can't complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
in his early days ogier tried to win every single stage and every single rally. nowadays he seems to go just for the title, and no longer tries to be the fastest everywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by journeyman racer
in 2013 he won 110 stages, in 2016 72, this year only 22.
Some credit to Ogier not being so superior as before must go to WRC+ with everyone being able to study him and the stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
And the running order
But Ogier's road position has improved due to the regulations, yet from a pure numbers perspective he's gone down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Well the road position never should've been any worse than it is now. It was a complete joke to run two days in championship order (something no other world champ ever had to face). And it's a bit harsh to say he's "gone down". Yes, he won fewer stages this season than ever before, but he still defended his championship title. As long as he reigns, it's hard say he'd be any worse than in 2013, 2014, 2015 or 2016.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Maybe announcement on 28th november during M-Sport celebration in Cumbria ?
(don't know precisely how long WRC+ has had onboards but for sure from at least mid 2016)Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Now before start of Australia Breen was saying on press conference how he has never been there before and other drivers laughed that he surely was watching a lot of WRC+ vids.
It was also mentioned by other drivers many times trough the year how they watch vids and shown in different instagram/twitter pics.
Yet I do distinctively remember how I was laughed at on this forum sometimes around Poland/Finland when I dared to suggest that drivers remember most of the stages from vids.
I also do remember how numerous forum members keep claiming that Ogier lied when he said he remembered that the corner where he drove into the field in Monte was quite "safe" for an off.
Ohh well.
There has been other onboards than just WRC+. Not sure if the teams have had access to the full onboard footage earlier, but at least there have been "recce videos" shot in traffic on a road car. Kris Meeke said in 2016 after winning Ouninpohja that he woke up an hour early to study an onboard video. That year, the stage was reversed and the last time it was competitively driven in that direction was 1994, so he must have had some other type of onboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Makinen's statement...
http://classic.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/133216
Since Poland 2014.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
I guess they could buy onboards before but it would be very expensive, not sure if you could buy from another driver though.
Kajetanowicz will drive Ford Fiesta #WRC 2017 in Poland for Rally Barbórka → http://bit.ly/2A3aIzD
Not sure why you would have been laughed at. This is common knowledge that drivers are eye-deep in onboards whenever possible. I reckon it's possible to memorise a rally now.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Even when Breen lost his intercom in Corsica this year he said he still knew most of the stage from memory. The stuff you often see Latvala doing on WRC TV where he's memorising the stages. The vast majority of the top drivers could do the same thing.
Regardless of WRC+, surely crews have been filming their reccy for years on end now.
are they actually trying not to win the championship or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
its like those japanese don't even want to win in motorsport. honda is doing everything they can to fuck up in f1, and toyota is now handicapping the team they pay for themself.
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News: #Pirelli to return to #WRC from 2018, supplying tyres for WRC and #WRC2, also becoming sole #JWRC supplier.
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Originally Posted by dimviii
Effectively reported in Motorsport News yesterday.
Julien not happy with the trophy, and rightfully so in my opinion.... from his FB page : "Very disappointed once again that the winning codriver doesn't deserve a "champion trophy"...Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Why the manufacturers and drivers get a beautiful Cup with their names written in it years after years, and not the navigators ?"
Rightfully so indeed! What's up with that trophy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kalm
Did you see both the @FIA and @JeanTodt tweeted their congratulations to Sébastien Ogier on his '4th' world title ?!
Unbelievable.
Ogier saying he'd like to do Le Mans in the future - http://www.crash.net/wrc/news/888145...ter-wrc-career
As someone who does that race every year I'd love to see Seb give it a crack in a few years.
Sébastien Ogier Retweeted now he's got it right !
@JeanTodt
Congratulations @SebOgier & Julien Ingrassia @OfficialWRC world champions for the 5th time.
#FIAPrizeGiving
wrc+ for general research prior to event
own recce videos during rally
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Originally Posted by AnttiL