27th Kennards Hire Rally Australia 2018 • 15-18 November

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Originally Posted by T16

Am I right in thinking it starts at about 20:10 UK time tonight. Cheers.

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it starts in about 30 minutes

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Originally Posted by eib1

@Michelin_Sport

Cloudy no rain expected this morning.

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Damn... :(

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Originally Posted by able1

well toyoda san can hire couple of ninjas to whack them both ... nothing in fia rules prohibits it :D There are unwritten rules in any Team sport , team tactics is part of it.

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You don't seem to know anything about Japanese culture, do You?

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Originally Posted by steve.mandzij

Team orders are entirely legal and don't directly impact or sabotage another driver's chances at anything like placing a rock on a crest or purposely hiring cars to crash into other competitors would.

I can't believe what you're saying.

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we talk about cheats, but not about breaking a law. All M-Sport movement not broke any rule now or even in Sweden. But all this stuff is a shame.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

You've gone too far. What You're talking about equals to a crime. Just that other teams don't make it public You think they don't apply team orders? Delaying a car in the service, ordering a driver not to be faster than his teammate, that's what teams has been always used.

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Yes, to show other extreme value.

Can you give me an example of modern era when other team do orders which hurts team-mates?

I say only that price for such a championship title is worthless, when everything was done for you by a team. Can you give it by yourself? - nope. A team giving you a prize. So it's not you a champion, it's a people of a team make you champion.

Latvala & Tänak & Lappi: 2 H4 + 3 M6

Ogier & Evans & Suninen: 4 M6 + 1 H4

Neuville: 5 M6

Paddon: 3 H4 + 2M6

Mikkelsen: 3 M6 + 2 H4

Breen: 5 M6

Ostberg: 3 M6 + 2H4

Drivers championship is always trophy of whole team, not driver alone codrives himself, coordinates, designs the car, engineers it, runs it, changes gboxes, tires, etc and finally not him alone pays for it...
In some series (like australian V8 Supercars) there are even rules describing what is alowed and what not on team orders, it's normal part of the game

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Originally Posted by KKS

All M-Sport movement not broke any rule now or even in Sweden.

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That is not true. They clearly broke rules in Sweden and got penalized for it. It's just that the rule+penalty system wasn't changed after Power Stage points were added, so the penalty to total time didn't hurt them.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

You don't seem to know anything about Japanese culture, do You?

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My infinite insight into japanese culture comes from 100 percent accurate blockbuster and timeless classic " Last Samurai" .

stop this BS already

we have a amazing day ahead

AT 06:44 - DRAMA ALREADY
On that note, we've had drama already. Ott Tänak suffered a hydraulic failure as he started to leave the service park. The team pushed him back into the Toyota service area, changed hydraulic parts and he's underway now